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#1 · (Edited)
This dude have compilated up a bunch of stuff for the (hopefully) upcoming Tau codex
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2011/03/demiurg-sightings-can-tau-bring-back.html#more

Demiurg Sightings (Can the Tau bring back Squats?) Tau Rumors

OK, first I thought it a joke. In fact it might still be. However, it was time to chime in and drop the line on the latest talk of the Demiurg (Squats or Space Dwarves).

What we have here are rumors declaring that Squats (Demiurg) will be making an appearance with the Tau. Now at first I was dismissive. I even laughed a bit. However, the more I read, the more plausable the idea really became. Then someone mentioned that the Tau do have dealings with the Demiurg, and that their ships are allies in Battlefleet Gothic.

What I have here is a couple things. The most relative posts on the subject as of when I was typing this out, of which are several people that have dropped us very accurate rumors in the past. Lastly I posted a couple paragraphs from the Battlefleet Gothic pdf on the GW website that talks about the Demiurg.

Have fun, and don't forget the salt.

via Stinger989
Well after posting some GK rumors i have returned with some more interesting tid bitz.

Squats will be returning with the TAU!

depending on printing problems it is possible they will be slated for November 2011 moving the Necrons back

Squats will be a troop choice and have t4 s5(with battle axe) 5+ 5+FNP(intoxicating save) and SAP but will be allowed to charge 6" instead of rolling

There is a squat HQ but no info yet.

Kroot are still in as well as the firewarriors

Character unlocks crisis suits as troops and they have gotten much better.

update: demiurg is what i ment but im sure you all know that by now.
hopefully more to come in the upcoming months. Enjoy

via Straightsilver
Well I was about to groan at "yet another squat" rumour but this does very scarily reinforce a rumour I have heard regarding Tau too, so I won't laugh this one off just yet.

I have been hearing since last year that Tau would get a big release in Q4 2011.

They will be getting plastic vespid, pathfinders and new battle suits and crisis suits (most likely recut sprue with all weapon options in plastic).

And I have heard that they were getting a new race as a unit type.

I never in a million years thought it would be squat/demiurg but this would be awesome if it's true.

The only thing that gives me pause is that I was told Tau would be getting new minis, but not necessarily a new Codex, so could the rules for these be in White Dwarf?

via Bramgaunt
You have to add that Demiurg and Tau have been known to at least trade with each other, if I remember it correctly. The Tau Ion Cannon is of Demiurg design, I think.

via Spectral Dragon
Necron's won't be done in time, that is why they are putting another codex in it's slot, the necron's aren't "getting pushed back because of the tau," they will be done when they are done.

Also, I was told about the Demierg rumor as well.

Taken from the Tau Battlefleet Gothic pdf's

Once a supremely rare sight, the gigantic stately commerce vessels of the Demiurg have been seen with increasing regularity in the Ultima Segmentum over recent centuries. Although known in legend among many indigenous races through the region, Demiurg vessels avoid Imperium-claimed space scrupulously unless specifically invited in. Unfortunately, less than scrupulous planetary governors have been known to employ Demiurg forces to bolster their own positions, inviting Inquisitorial censure for their truck with aliens.

Fleet strategists have postulated a link between the ships and the expansion of the Tau Empire on the Eastern Fringe, citing three confirmed sightings of Tau/Demiurg or Kroot/Demiurg fleets in the region of the Damocles Gulf. Others have suggested that the nomadic movement of the mysterious Demiurg demonstrates only an opportunistic desire to capitalise on the disruption caused by the Tyranid hivefleets.
Cred to whomever its due.

If there indeed is a Tau codex coming out this winter Im a happy camper. I need a playable 5th ed army that aint based on a dusty and dull codex.

And yea, there are Demiurg rumours in there, so sprinkle salt as normal....
 
#2 ·
Squats are all well and good but it is the idea of new battlesuits that I like the most. Hopefully they will take a page from FW and go with that look as the current crisis suits just do not fit the rounded and molded look of the rest of the army.
 
#5 ·
Lishwisting?
 
#9 ·
A new Tau codex would be nice.

However I don't think crisis suits need to be improved. 2 wounds, 3 up armour and able to be tooled up with lots of nice weaponry. Good enough I think.

Suits as troops would be nice however. Make for a nice compact travelling army.
 
#11 ·
Fingers crossed for useful all-suit army. Its like a shooty-jumpy Deathwing list without Land Raiders.
 
#19 ·
I just remember squats being little fat gaurdsmen in quilted jackets sometimes to be found on a trike. :) And there were the exoarmour ones I think, like halflings in mega-armour.

I don't know what they have in mind for demiurg though.
 
#20 ·
I just remember squats being little fat gaurdsmen in quilted jackets sometimes to be found on a trike. :) And there were the exoarmour ones I think, like halflings in mega-armour.
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Pics for awesome nostalgia:laugh:
 
#23 ·
Interesting rumors. If true, the tougher then SM and as strong as Warboss Space Dwarf allies of the Tau may reignite the passionate hatred I used to have for the Tau when I first read about them. Dirty Blue Commies. :p
 
#24 ·
Hmmmm...... with Demiurgs and Kroot coupled with suits....
I can definately see the possibilities in that. Demiurgs with FW behind in a gunline formation? Lots and lots of Str 5 pulse fire and protected by a line of "let's get up close and personal" troops.....

Yes.... definite possibilities.

Here's hoping ......

For the Greater Good
 
#27 ·
If Demiurg are indeed introduced, They'd have to be given a transport, or a teleporter of some kind to be on-par with Kroot, in terms of usefulness,

@above: I don't get the first picture: Tyranids did destroy all the Squats... :)
 
#29 ·
er, and where did you come up with this "theory"?
 
#31 ·
No, no squats. Please.

I know they have to expand armies when codices come out, but I hate this "codex convergence" stuff. If you give the slow army fast things, the assault army shooty things, and the frail army tough things, they loose a part of their tactical identity.
 
#32 ·
hope this is not true.

Hate dwares all the way and don't want them anywhere near 40k. I for one am hoping for tau to get more minor races as well as human auxiliaries, not squats. human troops should come way before squats.
 
#33 ·
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The Demiurg (think that's how you spell it) are a perfectly valid race.
You think it's coincidence that Eldar and Humans look so much alike? Humans are probably a descendant of the Eldar; there's a big gap in Human evolution.
Just the same, the Squats (and presumably the Demiurg), Ogryn, Ratlings, are all Abhuman, meaning descendants of humanity.

Ogryn are big, stupid Humans.
Ratlings are small, frail Humans who live a very similar lifestyle to their namesake.
Squats (and probably Demiurg being the same thing) are short, tough, strong, and hardy Humans.
There even used to be Beastmen, who were exactly what they sound like.

The existence of Squats is no more absurd than the existence of Ogryn.
 
#34 ·
I quite like the idea of a new Tau codex. However I would rather the Nicasser show up rather than the Demiurg because they cover a more subtle hole in the Tau army. Psychic Defence.

Tau are supposed to be rubbish in close combat so let them stay that way. Also on another note I thought it was meant to be a very closely guarded secret that the Tau are friendly with the Demiurg. If they start fighting in battles with each other would it not give it away somewhat?

Hopefully Farsight is the character that lets you take an all suit army. He seems the best bet.

My own personal hope for any prospective new Tau codex is that they make Stealth Suits worth taking. They are one of the most coolest entries invented in the 40K universe but their weapons are too short ranged for my liking.
 
#35 ·
Hopefully Farsight is the character that lets you take an all suit army. He seems the best bet...
If he keeps his current limitations then hed better do that too:laugh:


Stealth Suits are just 1 unit thats broken (in the true meaning of the word for once) in the Tau Codex. All in all itll be a blast to see what they will do with the Next Tau codex :)
 
#37 ·
Nicassar have evolved to the point that they're completely space born and would likely turn to mush on a planet, but I guess there are possibilities of individuals learning to adapt gravity.

And Stealth Suits have no redeeming values. None. They are twice the point cost (literally) than they should be and need long barelled Burst Cannons.
 
#40 ·
No actually it applies to the Demiurg away. The Tau spent a lot of time during the Damocles Gulf Crusade ensuring that the Imperium never knows of their alliance to the Demiurg. They even use Nicasser ships to do this.
 
#43 ·
id be very much for a tau release, im not all that familiar with their codex. but i think that giving the basic fire warrior weapon (pulse rifle?) a special rule allowing them to rapid fire at 15" or whatever half range would be (i think 32" would be a nice long range) perhaps have their weaponry should be assault 1, and assault 2 at half range...something.

i would like to see more suit units, like a troops choice CC unit (max of 3 a unit w/o drones or be really expensive). but that said i think id like to see more usefulness out of the vespid and kroot and possibly the human aux's they have.

they need some sort of elite choice that is their psychic/antipsychic power.