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Can regular humans have similar/extra organs to a space marine?

4.4K views 31 replies 14 participants last post by  locustgate  
#1 ·
This happened just yesterday when I was at my GW store, I was thinking of buying a centurian squad and making a captain/force commander with centurian armor. As I was browsing around like a little kid like we all do in there was a game going on.

One guy was playing chaos SM and the other was playing IG with Augumentations. Now normally I'd be 'cool there's bound to be regiments of IG that been augmented with drugs, viruses or genetics' but then the IG player said his Shock Troopers? (IG elite troops) were augmented similar(NOT THE SAME AS A SM) to a SM like having an extra heart and other organs the SM have but far less efficient then the SM organs. This excluded the black carparse I believe although he didn't mention it. Of course am standing they'd like an idiot scratching my head 'whaa? I dont think that's possible Is it?'

I wasn't going to get in that situation. My question is the title lol.
 
#3 ·
In the day and age of 40K, I can see extra organs put in standard humans. They are given chem mixes that make them go into a rage (like an Eversor assassin). Look at the Mechanicus. They augment their body to become more machine like. They don't start out as all advanced, but gradually work their way up. I can't say that I've read any where that extra organs were implanted, but I can't see why the technology is not there.
As for that guys IG army, if it's his fluff for his own army, I'm perfectly fine with that. However, if he is doing it and boosting the stats of his IG troopers, then that's a huge no go. So fluff wise, yes. Game effecting wise, no.

Edit: I would love to see a hockey themed army. Especially a Detroit Redwings one!
 
#4 ·
Remember that the Primarchs, and by extension, the Space Marines, were made (supposedly) with the help of Chaos. I can imagine some of the crazier organs, like the Omophagea, are probably outside the realms of current 40k technology.

Tossing in an extra heart or reinforcing their bones is definitely possible.
 
#7 ·
I think he used inferior like organs that worked like the SM organs other then the black carparse. From a secondary heart, reinforced bones, Muscle growth, can enter hibernation for a time, learn by eating etc. I just can't grasp how humans can basically have the same organs as SM just in a far less efficient form. If they add this? Why in the hell is this not standard for all IG? Can't be that expensive compared to making warships that are hive cities with massive guns.

On a side, people at my GW Store love making interesting or in this site tongue, Hersey type armies from SM allied with the Tau(Seriously WTF) to Slannesh Deamonettes serving Knorne. Normally I don't think it's a big deal but some of those that come through that door, sometimes your jaw will just drop and go WTF?
 
#8 ·
I think he used inferior like organs that worked like the SM organs other then the black carparse. From a secondary heart, reinforced bones, Muscle growth, can enter hibernation for a time, learn by eating etc. I just can't grasp how humans can basically have the same organs as SM just in a far less efficient form. If they add this? Why in the hell is this not standard for all IG? Can't be that expensive compared to making warships that are hive cities with massive guns.
Ugh….. because most of those things are impossible? It's best not to put too much thought into why or how stuff works in 40k.

Also, the explanation the dude provides, the less efficient thing? Yeah, that's called shitty story telling. Not much else to it.
 
#13 ·
That's what I thought as much. I didn't think organs could be made like SM that function in a similar fashion.

Do they ever fully explain anything in the Warhammer 40,000K Universe?
 
#18 ·
When you discover the warp and chaos (fundamental components for the creation of the primarchs and, through them, marines) you come tell me and we'll get to making us some spass mahreens. Space marines are nonsense because their creation depends upon space voodoo, not because a second heart is or is not possible.

That being said, one of the main points of one of my previous points was that there wasn't any point in worrying about the science behind this stuff.
 
#19 ·
Well according to The Universe that might exist. I know it's speculative, but it's cutting edge science. I mean it's on Discovery Channel for a reason. Then again I'm a fanboi of that and I have even been stopped from partying by them running a marathon of episodes with a mate. Everything is in flux right now, and remember weare living in the golden age of technology. In the 90's cell-phones weighed kilograms and could only be utilized on top of mountains, now they are commonplace.
 
#21 ·
Well Kor Phaeron, Luther, and a bunch of other prominent figures in the Legions were humans with a couple of extra organs thrown in to make them into pseudo-Astartes, and they did well enough for themselves. I don't see why there couldn't be a distant Mechanicus outpost or something that still has the tech to do it in 40k.
 
#22 ·
Excuse my language but what the hell is a pseudo-Astartes?
 
#23 ·
Bad ass humans with shinny, spinny chrome rims. Basically humans who went through intense augmentation processes that gave them physical abilities comparable to those of full marines. They were usually very important people who were to old to undergo the same process that marines did.
 
#24 ·
What's the process on making them? I dbout IG player was going for the pseudo-Astartes process.
 
#25 ·
No clue, but it was reserved for the best of the best and only when needed, so even if they could do it in M41, they wouldn't be doing it for anyone short of a saint or something similar.
 
#31 ·
Thing is we are gaining on the Sci Fi side now. We have metals that can actually bond with bone so that it becomes an integral part of the human body. I know because I have some implanted in myself, and would not let the Doctor do it until he explained to me how it would not just rip out if I got hit again.

Stem cell research has grown by leaps and bounds, as well as cloning. This does not equate to a Space Marine, but if you took Jules Verne while he was alive and let him witness these things he would have been amazed.

I agree that it is far fetched and some of it is poorly thought out ( a fused rib cage would not work ) but I see in the future that things will change. Hell, look at just 50 years ago. If you would have told a doctor " What I want you to do is put a drop of fluid in my eyes and then set your phaser to stun and blast my eyeball with it, and when you are done I will have near perfect vision! " you would have been on your way to the mental ward ... because that shit is just crazy. (Thank GOD I actually have good vision and it is the wife that wants Lasic Surgery done, that shit scares the fuck out of me)