this isnt a combi weapon though, a combi weapon is a normal bolter/rifle with an "undeslung" flamer/GL/melta etc. this is just a double barreled rifle

 

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Combi-Bolter

Shows all the combi bolter variants, including the twin linked combi bolter, which was the precursor for the stom bolter.

 

He's right, its pretty much the same thing.

The next step could be a Storm Bolter.

If only XD

Alice

 

it also says this

Combi-weapons are guns used by Imperial Space Marine and Chaos Space Marine armies, and are essentially Boltguns incorporating a second weapon which is good for a single shot per battle. Only one of the component weapons may be fired at once.

the bits in bold and underlined being the specific bits:

combi weapons have another weapon which can be fired once, and at a different time to the other weapon

 

it also says this


the bits in bold and underlined being the specific bits:

combi weapons have another weapon which can be fired once, and at a different time to the other weapon

It also says this:

Used by the Space Marines since before the Horus Heresy, the Combi-Bolter is a similar weapon to the Imperium's more advanced Storm bolter. While the Storm Bolter is a single weapon, the Combi-Bolter is essentially two Bolters strapped together. They are commonly used on Chaos Space Marine Bike Squadrons but are no longer produced in the Imperium in favour of the Storm Bolter.

He's right Khrone.

Alice

 

More like a comb-bolter found in C:CSM. But hey, what's with the pedanticness?

EDIT: Ninja'd by the Assassin.

 

pedanticness?

Pedantry.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

 

Wouldn't the old M203 or M198 be the first combi weapon in general use?

 

Or the underbarrel-mounted shotguns (add Dragonsbreath rounds, instant flamer >).

 

The military has been slapping portable grenade launchers on the bottoms of M16s for a long time....so this combi-weapon idea has already been used in real life....plus back in the 1900s they had some rifles with 2 barrels that would shoot completely different caliber rounds......so this is not at all a new concept.

 

Wait you mean this is closer to a combi weapon than a ugl? christ rifle grenades have been in use since just after the first world war, and you can't say that its not a combi weapon.

 

Regardless of the symmantics, it does look like a cool gun. I'd consider it a twin-linked rifle as you are definitely getting more bullets on the target.

 

A twinlinked bolter can't be a combi- weapon, a combi is two different weapons, a bolter and something else. About the c:csm pic I think it is just a mistake it is clearly a twinlinked and wouldn't be the first one in the codex.

 

looks like Gillette have entered the gun design world, as people have said more parts to break down and clean and go wrong.

 

I never understood the 'more bullets on target' mentality. This gun seems to fire 2 bullets almost simultaneously so if the first is going to miss the second is almost certainly going to miss as well. And with a combat rifle a single hit is probably better than 2 anyway, as you will be giving a lethal wound and not an outright kill.

As for this being a the first combi weapon, probably not and it looks a little odd.

 

The more bullets thing comrs from statistics, if one in three bullets hit a target then if you fire 3 1 willhit, that's why some rifles have a 3round burst setting.

I too have never agreed with that "back in my day" we were taught to make every round count.

 

I always thought that was so if the first hit, the second and third would hit - hence the an94 and 2 round ump burst fire .

You get more chance for ricochet and deformation of the bullet causing frag wounds with it but even so you might as well up the fire rate or the calibre. Just use a shrike or f2000.

Site looks tacticool anyway.

 

They site the double tap ability of it. Two bullets will definitely down a target rather than 1.

 

The people it is aimed at will already double tap, using higher calibre ammunition (9mm/45acp) or be trained enough that two chest, one head is second nature.

If you want to down someone, you hit them with something that hurts, not fire 2 smaller ones. Give me a 762 or ump9 and you are a happy bunny. Easier to carry the magazines, quicker to reload, less muzzle climb, less wastage, lighter and more maneuverable, and there are better weapon systems available that do the same. Goig for a pdw youd use the p90 with 57 ammo, mp5 with the 9mm, or fmgs which can fold. Not a conventional short barrelled carbine.

This is a just 'because we can' and sounds like an xzibit idea. So I tuk yo gun and gave it anuver barrel den I gave it anuver magazine and now it fires two bullets yoski. ulyk?

 

I'm just curious as to your credentials, because this sounds like a very Rainbow 6 type of analysis to me and not that of a professional operator.

If I am off the mark, please by all means put me in my place.

 

Yep, and here's the first Assault Cannon!

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/FWWgatling.htm

 

oh dear..... if he see's that... :hang1:

He's in the military, has been for some time now if i recall correctly.

Alice

 

So have I.

But just being in the military doesn't make one an expert on weapons and/or engagement tactics. That's why I said that he can feel free to put me in my place.

 

7 years RM, 3 years as FPGRM in the North Sea, another in the MSG on my first GAFA, the other 3 in the BRF. Used everything from an sa80, to a c8 to an ak103, to an xm25 when I went to train with the PJs and Seals.

Room clearance is our specialism, as is mobility warfare and 6 day long yomps carrying around 150lbs of kit to set up an OP at 7500 ft, shitting in bags and stinking like a para. Seen a fair few contacts and managed to get 3 flechettes from a hydra 90 puncture smash through soft sand and into my chest leaving me out of it for best part of a year. Creds fit, or do you need to see my personal development folder?

As for how a pro operator sounds, how do they sound? Im always intrigued.

 

All that service and not one confirmed donkey kill tut tut

 

Nope, but managed to destroy the Taliban Navy's Khor fleet. Spent 3 weeks on acclimatisation, briefed for HK missions as part of JSOC initiatives before the PRTs came in, and only managed to disable a half dozen boats in a bleeding desert, in a landlocked country in its most landlocked province.

Effort, as they say.

 

Those crazy taliban and there land boats

 

wouldnt it be twin linked?

 

Hey guys you can buy combi weapons such as a .308/12 gage rifle shotgun mix that’s used for boar hunting.
Is that what you guys are looking for?

 

I know of an overunder style rifle that is 12.ga & .308 its called a spartan. its a breach loader

 

first combi weapon was the first machine gun with underslung grenade launcher right?