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Eldar dwarf?

2.7K views 28 replies 18 participants last post by  emporershand89  
#1 ·
I was just browsing the BL site, and came across the cover art for Deathwolf. I'd never really paid it much attention, but now that I have I find the fact that the DE is barely half the height of the SW somewhat jarring. I'd always believed that the average Eldar is much taller than the average human. Maybe not as tall as a SM, but certainly not as short as depicted. I'd put it down to artistic licence, but the covers are usually pretty spot on. Am I right in thinking he should be taller?

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#3 ·
Yeah, scale seems a bit funky, but we can chock that up to artistic license. I mean, the marines are taller by a decent margin, but then again that marine looks like 5 feet wide, so its off, yeah.
 
#4 ·
Considering Eldar are only a few inches talerr than your average human, and that Astartes are "Meters" above your avergae human, this picture seems to be quite accurate. I may not mkae the Axe look for damn frigg'in big but hey.....imaginarion is a finnicky thing.
 
#9 ·
Considering Eldar are only a few inches talerr than your average human, and that Astartes are "Meters" above your avergae human, this picture seems to be quite accurate.
Beg pardon.....?
 
#6 ·
Meters?

That's not right.

Humans are generally said to come to a Marine's chest, and marines are most often quoted at the 7/8 foot or 2 metre mark.

Eldar however are described as being far taller than a human, impossibly tall and slender. Sometimes as tall, sometimes taller than human.

I'd chalk this down to artistic license. The Marine simply looks out of proportion of his own body. Also note that the Eldar is crouched over and on a slope.
 
#7 ·
Eldar aren't just a 'little' taller than humans, they're much taller on average- the scale on that cover is wrong unless, as the OP suggested in his title, it's a midget Eldar.

Some Eldar, not all but a healthy enough percentage so it's not a rare thing, are of a similar height to your average Adeptus Astartes (around the 2.2m+ scope). Just with absolutely none of the bulk of a Space Marine, similar to a ballerina stood next to the burliest NFL player you've ever damn well seen.
 
#10 ·
Looking at the picture more, the DE's back leg goes behind and downhill in the illustration, so I think the perspective shapes a lot of the impression.

On a related note, Astares armor is very powerful and bulky, but any estimates on how thick the boot foot pads are... would they add 4" or another 6" to the SMs height?
 
#12 ·
As others have noted, the Dark Eldar's back leg is on a slope and the front leg is bent at a 90 degree angle--look, his knee is level with his hip.

If everyone straightens up, I think the DE would be about to the chest of the Space Marine (who is also crouching, too).

I think the Eldar is still a BIT short, but no where as crazy as the picture implies at first glance.
 
#14 ·
You can't take one isolated illustration as the definitive source of information, especially where scale is concerned. Every author perceives the setting differently, and the scale of Space Marines and Eldar hasn't been portrayed consistently anyway.

Everything else aside, I like the image. :)
 
#16 ·
These portraits are created by remembrancers, thus they will always vary from remembrancer to remembrancer. Furthermore each remembrancer has their own perception of the event that they are recording, thus each work of art will vary in its appearance due to expressing different themes.
 
#18 ·
Except when frozen....? :laugh:
 
#26 ·
Also, I forgot to add, people focus too much on Astartes' height, which is pretty much nothing compared to their bulk. A basketball player ( in this case I'll use an Eldar cause of slimness ) , and an astartes may stand around the same height, 7foot and what not, but space marines are much more bulky, while basketball players are shrimps in comparison. Your average astartes may range anywhere from 200-250 kg of sheer muscle, while the Eldar might be under 100, or barely reaching 100. So in short, we are looking anywhere btw 500- 750 kg ( with the power armor on ). So while the author is probably dimnishing Eldar's height, he's certainly not mistaken about the bulk.
 
#28 ·
But how big are their penises?

As much as I like the fluff, there's a flying fuck somewhere that I should probably give.

Long story short, there'll be occurences (read; Plot Armour) for whoever the story is about, and as the majority of books are written in the Astartes/Imperium pov, then it will be inevitably skewed in that manner.