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Seriously things are changing majorly. I just got to the part after Nagash has returned and it has some serious implications. Please don't read on if you don't want it spoilt.






Eltharion and Belannaer are gone, Eltharion turned to dust by Arkhan the Black and Belannaer destroyed after Mannfred Von Cartsein threw something akin to purple sun at him and his regiment of Swordmasters, Belannaer threw up a shield, but Mannfred used it as a distraction to plant a seed into the mind of a swordmaster who attacked Belannaer and cut him down the back, disrupting the shield which then obliterated the unit.

Mannfred seized a female elf prince from Tiranoc and has turned her into a Vampire that nows resides in Drakenhof Castle. Volkmar is dead, having been used as a vassal for Nagash to possess and return in, Morigana Le Fey is dead, her throat slit and used to pool around Volkmar's feet.

Aliathra, the supposed Everchild (Daughter of Everqueen and Phoenix King) is also dead she was used in the same way as Morigana, however what Arkhan and Mannfred didn't know was that she wasn't the child of the Everqueen and Phoenix king but actually the Everqueen and Tyrion, thus she had the blood and curse of Aenarion within her. This was transfused into Nagash who is now cursed and sapped of power thus making his attempt at battling Chaos a lot harder and slower.

All this in the end was actually manipulated by none other than....Teclis and Malekith working together! Teclis sacrificed not only his brother's daughter, but also Eltharion and Belannaer so that he could weaken Nagash. This was done so that Nagash didn't simply rush off to confront Chaos and ultimately lose, but instead to make Nagash significantly weak enough that he would be more cautious and in the end contribute to the war effort in a lesser but useful way.

Marius Leitdorf's brother who was Grandmaster of the Knight of Sigmar's Blood is also dead, he got suckered in an ambush after he moved to far ahead of his High Elf allies and ended up being drained of blood by Mannfred. Mannfred was wounded by Eltharion who he couldn't beat in physical combat and was beaten when a near dead Stormwing used his last strength to raise up and fall on top of Mannfred, this allowed Eltharion to use his sword to piece the barrier guarding Arkhan with his magic sword, which disintegrated after getting him through, so Eltharion tried to beat Arkhan with his fist, but Arkhan put his hand on Eltharion vambrace and turned him to dust.

Other points, the Bretonnian King is gone, considered dead at the hands of his Bastard Son, who in turn eventually has his head cut off by a returning Gilles le Breton. All of Tilea and Estalia has pretty much been enslaved by Skaven apart from some which got entirely obliterated by Daemon incursions. Settra is awake and has awoken every Tomb King.

Malagor the Beastman Shaman's army, which was been directed at stopping Nagash by the Chaos gods was suckered into following one of Mannfred's general's which ended with them coming into contact with a huge army from Karak Kadrin lead by the Slayer king, the Slayer king was responding to Karl Franz in asking for help to support the High Elves and Empire army sent to deal with Nagash, the battle with the Beastmen though left 8 out of 10 Dwarves dead and 1 out of 10 unable to fight, so despite wanting to die in a glorious fashion, he did his kingly duty and returned to his hold.

The Everqueen came seeking the aid of the Wood Elves to recover her daughter, they agreed and sent Araloth to aid them, but after finally defeating a banshee sent to slow them, they came upon Araloth's Goddess and she transported them to Ulthuan. Loren itself is beset by Beastman and a sort of plague that is making trees rot and their queen very very ill. For some reason it was Drycha who delivered Morigana le Fay to Mannfred after the Battle of Quenelles.

Also the Amethyst College has disintegrated as Nagash attempts to make himself the Avatar of Death Magic.
 

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wow lots info is this all from the new nagash book?
Yep and there's more, it appears Heinrich Kemmler maybe dead at the hands of Arkhan in a sorcerers duel when Kemmler tried to nick Nagash's staff at the final battle of La Maisontaal Abbey. Also Nagash turned Zacharias the Everliving to dust after he tried to barter with him, so he's dead to. Nefarata nearly got owned by a Chimera till Krell saved her.
 

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Yep and there's more, it appears Heinrich Kemmler maybe dead at the hands of Arkhan in a sorcerers duel when Kemmler tried to nick Nagash's staff at the final battle of La Maisontaal Abbey. Also Nagash turned Zacharias the Everliving to dust after he tried to barter with him, so he's dead to. Nefarata nearly got owned by a Chimera till Krell saved her.
soo this book is just a list of dead warhammer heros it would seem lol
 

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soo this book is just a list of dead warhammer heros it would seem lol
It's turning into Game of Thrones. I just read the Elector Count of Ostermark has also died, killed by the Nurgle Warlord, not before he disembowled the warlord with his runefang. The lord thought it was just a flesh wound and would easily heal due to nurgles favour, but the runefang was enchanted to combat regeneration (to kill trolls) so he eventually fell down dead. What's funnier is Vlad turns up, raises the Elector Count and then uses him to offer Valten his runefang to help him kill a Greater Daemon of Nurgle lol.
 

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It's turning into Game of Thrones. I just read the Elector Count of Ostermark has also died, killed by the Nurgle Warlord, not before he disembowled the warlord with his runefang. The lord thought it was just a flesh wound and would easily heal due to nurgles favour, but the runefang was enchanted to combat regeneration (to kill trolls) so he eventually fell down dead. What's funnier is Vlad turns up, raises the Elector Count and then uses him to offer Valten his runefang to help him kill a Greater Daemon of Nurgle lol.
wow yes game of thrones in the warhammer world, it is nice to have a upheavel of heros and see how they end, will be intresting to see how this effects the new warhammer books they release , im a bret player and will be intresting to see what happens.
 

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wow yes game of thrones in the warhammer world, it is nice to have a upheavel of heros and see how they end, will be intresting to see how this effects the new warhammer books they release , im a bret player and will be intresting to see what happens.
In regards to Bretonnians..

 

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In regards to Bretonnians..

wow this would be intresting to see how they implement it into the new army book if they do, I would be sad to see the green knight lose its rules tho
 

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Mannfred seized a female elf prince from Tiranoc and has turned her into a Vampire that nows resides in Drakenhof Castle.
Is her name Eldyra? Cos if so, Tyrion is going to be pissed.

All this in the end was actually manipulated by none other than....Teclis and Malekith working together! Teclis sacrificed not only his brother's daughter, but also Eltharion and Belannaer so that he could weaken Nagash. This was done so that Nagash didn't simply rush off to confront Chaos and ultimately lose, but instead to make Nagash significantly weak enough that he would be more cautious and in the end contribute to the war effort in a lesser but useful way.
I'm reading The Return of Nagash now, already knew about Aliathra's death, but I didn't know Teclis bloody planned it with bloody Malekith! When Tyrion finds out what his brother did, and you know he's going to, I predict that this equation will follow;

Tyrion + Dead Daughter + Treacherous Brother = Sword of Khaine = Dead Brother

All of Tilea and Estalia has pretty much been enslaved by Skaven apart from some which got entirely obliterated by Daemon incursions.
HELLZ YEAH MAN-THINGS! :twisted:


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Is her name Eldyra? Cos if so, Tyrion is going to be pissed.


I'm reading The Return of Nagash now, already knew about Aliathra's death, but I didn't know Teclis bloody planned it with bloody Malekith! When Tyrion finds out what his brother did, and you know he's going to, I predict that this equation will follow;

Tyrion + Dead Daughter + Treacherous Brother = Sword of Khaine = Dead Brother


HELLZ YEAH MAN-THINGS! :twisted:


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Yes that was her name. Also there was a vision of brothers fighting one another earlier on in the book I didn't realise what it was about until you just mentioned that.
 

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Yes that was her name. Also there was a vision of brothers fighting one another earlier on in the book I didn't realise what it was about until you just mentioned that.
Damn. Poor Tyrion. His surrogate-daughter is a vampire and his blood-daughter is dead, and his brother responsible for both of them. Now all he has left is Alarielle, if she dies then he has nothing left.


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Damn. Poor Tyrion. His surrogate-daughter is a vampire and his blood-daughter is dead, and his brother responsible for both of them. Now all he has left is Alarielle, if she dies then he has nothing left.


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Alarielle is currently trying to nurse the Wood Elf's queen back to health I think, the last I saw of her she was descending into the Oak of Ages.
 

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Alarielle is currently trying to nurse the Wood Elf's queen back to health I think, the last I saw of her she was descending into the Oak of Ages.
Yes that scene is in The Return of Nagash. Well now she just became even more important than before, if the Everqueen dies with no heir then the unbroken line of them stretching back to Aenarion and Astarielle is done. No more Everqueens. And that likely means no more High Elves.


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Yes that scene is in The Return of Nagash. Well now she just became even more important than before, if the Everqueen dies with no heir then the unbroken line of them stretching back to Aenarion and Astarielle is done. No more Everqueens. And that likely means no more High Elves.


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Tyrion's daughter did something to Arkhan though, I don't know what but he touched him and something happened, even he didn't know what it was. I'm not sure, I'll have to read it again.
 

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Tyrion's daughter did something to Arkhan though, I don't know what but he touched him and something happened, even he didn't know what it was. I'm not sure, I'll have to read it again.
Yes she did. No way to tell, but if I could bet on it, i'd say Arkhan should be very worried. Sorcery that takes time to activate is never good for the one it's used on. And Aliathra was powerful, very. More powerful than Arkhan even. Arkhan saw that briefly in an early scene.


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Yes she did. No way to tell, but if I could bet on it, i'd say Arkhan should be very worried. Sorcery that takes time to activate is never good for the one it's used on. And Aliathra was powerful, very. More powerful than Arkhan even. Arkhan saw that briefly in an early scene.


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I'm only going off what was present in the Nagash book atm, it was all pretty brief, I will get around to reading the full story from the various books eventually. I kind of like and at times hate the way they are going with the lore, but at least things are changing properly rather than the luke warm change in Storm of Chaos.
 

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I just finished the book and omg, there seems to be no stopping Nagash.
More detail would be nice... Seriously, please give us more detail, this stuff is awesome to read.


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question im a fan of dwarfs I noticed u had a bit about the slayer king is there anymore, maybe some about gotrek( saw there a new book about there fight in the end of times.
 
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