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The Yellow King
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hey all i have been just working on doing some Imperial fists and i started a prac marine last night i just wanna know what you think

most of the armor is done how i want i just need to do the metalics.
(and yeah i got my finger in the light so there is a big shadow :p)



 

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i have finished the body of the above marine and it is below for your viewing pleasure please C&C also i need to fix up the freehand fist a little but im pretty happy with it!





my first attempt to airbrush my basecoat it came out a bit to thick.. i think i will get it right next time!




if you have any tips for cleaning an airbrush please advise!
 

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Nicely done! Yellow can be a huge pain, but it looks good here. Less 'sunshine and buttercups' but more of an actual suit of power armour. What colour is the 2nd guys cloth going to be?
 

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I think the second attempt looks worlds better than the first, looks much cleaner and smoother. I'd definatley stay on course with the airbrushing method!

Good work dude!
 

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Final Update!

i have finished the marine please look for your viewing please and C&C i tried to do a marble base dont know how well it turned out if you want pics of it please let me know as they guy is not glued down... just pinned :)





 

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A good start. But I've got some suggestions that will bring these models up leaps and bounds. First off though, the yellow itself is very well done, as I said, particularly on the airbrushed model. But there are some things you need to do to bring their level up a notch.

First off, tidy up the fist on his knee. Bring the fingers in closer, as at the moment it doesn't really resemble the IF logo too much. Work slowly and it will look much nicer.
Also there a few places that need touch ups (soft armour in wrist joint is still yellow for example:))

Secondly, regarding the battle damage (as i assume that is what the effect on the rear of the leg is) I think you should either spread the damage across the whole model, or not do any, because at the moment it doesn't really look "right" to me.

Next, I think you definatley need to choose a company to do, so that you can paint the shoulder trims a different colour. At the moment there is a little too much yellow on the top half of the model, painting the trims a diferent colour would help break apart the one colour look.

Lastly, paint the rims of your bases, this is a small thing that makes the world of difference. just giving them two coats of bestial brown will make the model look much more finished.

As i said, this is an exceptionally good start and my hat goes off to you for choosing such a difficult colour (I still wish I had the balls to make a proper go off yellow)
Once you've done a few things to just tidy it up and get a little more detail in there, you will have a really great looking model :victory:

hope this helps

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thanks heaps for the help now i have a few quesions on your C&C

1. it was my first attempt at freehand im still not very good but im getting there! maybe i should take it off if i cant get it right?

2. soft armour in wrist joints is still yellow? i dont understand i thought i got red wash into those ....

3. the "battle damage" isnt battle damage its supposed to be like the paint has rubbed off as he has moved through his surroundings.

4. mm i guess you are right about the shoulder trims i just got lazy :p

5. the rims are painted black i like them black the paint is just still wet in the pictures :)

thank you heaps for your comments
 

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First of all, +rep.

Secondly, good job on the yellow. I agree that your first mini has its paints on extremely thick, but your airbrushing looks great. The damage to the paint on the legs look great, and I would put some kind of debris or such on there to show what is causing it. The fist could be a bit closer, but you could chip it up to show it wearing off from debris/battle damage as well. I have never been a fan of nice, crisp marines. Keep up the good work.
 

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umm well it's a great start man! An Airbrush is something that will come with practice... The only real beef I've got is with your "marble" It looks like a piece of styrofoam was used for the base. Doesn't look marbly to me at all! Perhaps Gale Force Nine's Rubble basing is a solution for you, paint it up to look marbly and you'll be fine!
 

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mm yeah i still got to work on the technique.. the base is made out of cork with plasticard glued on top... i think it might be too thick though.

i dont like buying resin bases i prefer to make them myself.
 

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nice models!

though i have a couple of suggestions if you're interested!

all right,

first:if I were you,i'd try to keep the colour more clean,when you use your wash!(i supppose you used a wash)

second:i don't like very much the "ruined" effect on the legs.how you did it it's all right,though it's a bit "nonesense" to have the armour so ruined down there and when all the rest in new!

all this imho of course.and if I can tell you even something more,for the ruined effect,try to paint first with a brown,and only then paint the metallic color "inside" on the brown part.i don't know if I make mself clear,probably not!

so that you have a darker colour between the yellow and the metallic.

keep on painting!

bye:so_happy:
 

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thanks for the comments sommo i do appreciate your comments very much
in fact i didnt use a proper wash i just mixed one part Vallejo Red Leather to 6 parts water and used that as a wash but it does tend to not work as good as a proper Citadel wash.

the ruined parts of the legs i like alot.. i guess a little wear would help around the mini but if you walked through like miles of thorny scrub what would happen? that is the effect i am trying to achieve although if i have to explain it so much i might drop the idea :p

i definatly appreciate all comments like yours, and definatly from you who has amazing Imperial Fists :)
 

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The yellow on the first marine looks a bit molted, but that is with me blowing up the pics so IRL they probably look smooth.

Hmm cleaning an airbrsh can be tricky, if you have clogged the entire thing then it will take some special chemicals and a lot of soaking with the possibility of replacing the tip. If the air and paint still have a path to travel down you an try using window cleaner, which works wonders, just make sure you rinse afterward because the amonia can start eating at the rubber seals. If it is gunked then soaking and careful scrapping are about the best ways to deal with that.
 

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mm its not gunked.. there is just bits of paint left around on the airbrush... i want to get it real clean.. si ill try the glass cleaner then do a few sprays of plain water to clean it all out.

thanks for the help.. i am just paranoid about ruining my airbrush :)
 

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The yellow on the first marine looks a bit molted, but that is with me blowing up the pics so IRL they probably look smooth.

Hmm cleaning an airbrsh can be tricky, if you have clogged the entire thing then it will take some special chemicals and a lot of soaking with the possibility of replacing the tip. If the air and paint still have a path to travel down you an try using window cleaner, which works wonders, just make sure you rinse afterward because the amonia can start eating at the rubber seals. If it is gunked then soaking and careful scrapping are about the best ways to deal with that.

To help avoid this later use the recipe for the home made reducer that I sent you. If you don't mind spending a little extra money then you can use 'flow aid' instead of windex. This way the paint will still travel freely but you don't have to worry so much about your rubber seals.

Liquitex Flow Aid:victory:
 

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Winsor and Newton Galleria makes a nice flow aid that is reasonably cheap as well seeing you mix it 20:1 water. In the long run the concentrated flowaid will last you longer and be cheaper then the windex but windex is nice since you clean brushes with is as well.

Az what brush did you end up getting?
 

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the ruined parts of the legs i like alot.. i guess a little wear would help around the mini but if you walked through like miles of thorny scrub what would happen? that is the effect i am trying to achieve although if i have to explain it so much i might drop the idea
I think the idea is a decent one but the execution is the problem. Right now it tends to look too much like a big mess instead of scratching and such. On the next model, try going with the less is more approach and limit the damage to the very bottom edge and maybe slightly higher. The problem with it as it stands is that it looks like you slapped a bit of boltgun on it and left it like that.

I would suggest that you control the area you want chipped by painting it fully and then edging it with a small amount of light brown on the edges of the chips, followed by a slightly lighter yellow than the rest of the armour. Both of these colours would be pencil thin obviously but the effect will look far better.
 
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