[tsarrion]

I play an Eldar Iyanden army and I do very well with it, I have 8 full sized Wraithguard squads and 8 wraith lords. I formerly used a Seers council with this and it was very effective. When the Tau were introduced to the 40k universe, however, I found my self at a major disadvantage when it came to fighting a primarily range based army. I decided to make a strategic change by adding in 2 squads of Striking Scorpions and 2 squads Swooping Hawks. In the area I play there have been dozens of weird stares from onlookers and opponents as if I were crazy. I've decimated entire tournaments with the old Swooping Hawk Grenade Packs destroying entrenched squads and dropping in Scorpions with deep strikes and unleashing fury in close combat with Mandablasters and close combat weapons.
This was severals years ago and yet still I get very little if any respect from opponents over the fact of using Hawks and Scorpions. I admit there are several great choices in the Elites section of the Eldar Codex, but I don't need Fire dragons when my Wraithlords have Brightlances, or Banshees for close combat even though the war shout is very good.
I have mentioned my position on this, perhaps someone else can enlighten me as to why i keep getting this disrespect. Is it me?, or is it just the people I play with?

 

[Pandawithissues...]

Swooping hawks are REALLY underrated, and nice models. Got some myself.

 

[Bloodhound]

Yeah. People just don't undestand how good they are until they play them.
I've written up my list for Eldar with both Scorpions and Banshees and have recieved alot of good comments about it from GW staff and other players.

 

[Elchimpster]

Striking Scorpions are arguably my favorite unit in the Eldar Codex.

 

[Galahad]

Striking Scorps are very good now, but the Eldar Codex is overloaded when it comes to very strong elites choices.

By the time you've bought your harlies and your wraithlord and your swooping hawks, suddenly there's no room for scorps.

They;re a good, solid unit. But in a book full of good, strong units, it doesn't stand out enough to make it to everyone;s list.

 

[wolf.]

yeah, as said before, they are my personal favourite out of all the eldar, to be honest.
great models with great stats and if used well, a big big thorn in the opponents side

 

[AntiPaladin]

I only really use scorpions in large scale games since my Eldar move too much for a non fof unit.

The only time I take scorpions over harlies is when I'm fighting IG or Tau, since a) harlies are usually overkill, and b) the scorpions are better at tying up large chunks of an army due to their superior saves and higher strength.

 

[jigplums]

i like scorpians but mine always fail ld tests

 

[Stella Cadente]

No respect?, heck whenever I fought against Eldar it was the one unit that gave me the most trouble, they just wouldn't die quick enough, and would tie up my flank for ages, there one of the better close combat orientated choices for Eldar, there infinitely better than something rubbish like....Harlequins

 

[HorridForm]

Striking Scorpions are really bad ass in City Fights where alot of the abilities give them an edge in combat.

Swooping Hawks are great anti-swarm/anti-vehicle choice.

Its just a shame that Harlequins and Grav tanks are superior in most instances.

 

[wolf.]

i like scorpians but mine always fail ld tests

ah, that would suck..
mine haven't failed one leadership test if my memory serves..

 

[Lord Sinkoran]

I don't think they are underestimated they seem to be the aspect of choice in my local and friends I game with.

 

[Sarigar]

With 4th edition and the new Eldar Codex, it is difficult to justify taking Striking Scorpions in an all comers armylist (IE: tourney lists). It appears many people on the internet are looking for advice on armies based on taking on all comers. This is where Scorpions will tend to get left out. A few reasons why:

No fleet. This can be critical for getting troops stuck in combat. They can infiltrate, but will never get a 1st turn assault unless your opponent runs at them. It is pretty easy to stay away from Scorpions, especially on foot.

Take up slots that Harlequins and Fire Dragons need. These two choices are arguably no brainer choices for current Eldar builds. I could argue Harlequins, but for 80 points, I have to admit 5 Fire Dragons is a fantastic purchase, especially as most Eldar players will field at least one Falcon. Many folks seem willing to spend more points for the Harlequins in an all comers list vs. Scorpions.

S6 Powerfist for the Exarch now. A lot of people got turned off by this when it used to be S8. It's arguable if it's even worth it, especially when considering Banshees and Harlequins as viable asasult units.

Loss of Haywire Grenades. Personally, I never liked the concept that Scorps used Haywire, but I couldn't disregard their utility.

All in all, it saddens me a bit. I like the new codex, but I rarely ever take my Scorpions out of the case anymore. There are just other units I prefer to use instead of them.

 

[cccp]

i use them whenever i play with my eldar. i personally rate them as highly as banshees. they get a bucketload of attacks, and they have 3+ armour which makes them a lot more durable.

they have a lot of competition now though, fire dragons are a lot more favourable than they used to be, and the cost of the BL has gone up.

 

[Warpath]

I've been playing Eldar for about a year and i'm sorry to say (well not to sorry :wink that my scorpions have never been selected to take part in a game. I'm surprised they haven't just got up and left !!!!!
But for me with options like fire dragons and harlequins (these got me into 40k those many many years ago) there just isn't room or points for them, not when i'll not game without a 10 man squad of warpspiders.

But if it helps they are fantastic models and i do love the whole aspect.

but i'd never underestamate them in any way and the swooping hawk combo sounds like a very good tactic, i play a hit and run style with my warpspiders and harl's i love hit and run.

Warpath

 

[angels of fire]

the hawks kick ass wit hthe sunblaster they can take out lots of lightly armoured troops. this said i still havent painted mine.