why all the hate??
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because every 5 minutes someone asks why everyone hates ultramarines.
plus I already said mine here.
http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showthread.php?t=68261
plus I already said mine here.
http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showthread.php?t=68261
Exactly.
@ the OP. I have read the books, and they are quite good, Courage and Honour was quite bad actually but that's one out of about 6. I've seen far too much love for that army and not enough for others that could do with it, that I couldn't like Ultramarines if I tried.
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I have nothing against the ultramarines they have good fluff books and they are a good army
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I don't hate them so much as i've seen enough of them. During Second ed every time you turned around a boxed set was being released with the boys in blue all over it. It's more like i see them as Gw's advertising chapter. Nothing against them i mean wolverine is in everything to do with marvel all the time and he kicks ass. Sometimes you would rather have a little cyclops or gambit though.
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They're a band of smug, pompous incompetents with too much love from Games Workshop to make up for their lack of real substance or interesting aspects.
That, and Ultramarine blue is hideous unless they're painted closer to the crimson fist blue.
That, and Ultramarine blue is hideous unless they're painted closer to the crimson fist blue.
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Would some mod not just sticky a list a reasons why ultramarines are being continually bashed, there are far too many of these threads.
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Because then we'd have people who hated the Ultramarines complaining that we were playing favourites with the UM- it's a vicious cycle but it does provide amusing, nonsensical statements from members like hungryugolino.
Only reason I could see the hate is that they've been pushed far too much, thanks to Matt Ward and others they've created the mystique that nothing can stop Ultramarines and they're THAT good. From the fact they are "so perfect" really gets people's blood boiling when they're presented as being the best of the best. When in actuality, they're just as good as any other main chapter of Space Marines. Each with it's own strengths and weaknesses.
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We have this little hand crafted bowl (a wedding present) that my wife and i keep our keys in. Sometimes my keys aren't there, so i spend 10 minutes looking for them, only to discover they are actually in the bowl afterall.
It's like someone is hiding them from me on purpose, and i'm pretty sure it's the Ultramarines.
It's like someone is hiding them from me on purpose, and i'm pretty sure it's the Ultramarines.
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I laughed my ass off at that. Personally, I dont have a problem with the UM's. But it does get old hearing about them. In fact, I had a conversation like this the other day with my dad. We were talking about hockey and how everything is "Crosby this" or "Crosby that". No one can do anything durring the season/playoffs without being compared to Sidney "crybaby" Crosby and it's infurriating. So to me, the UM's are kinda like that. I like them, but I'm tired of them always being thrown at me.
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Ultramarines are like Kanye West.
They think they are top shit, and gods greatest gift, when in reality they are complete douches with the talent of a dead fetus.
They think they are top shit, and gods greatest gift, when in reality they are complete douches with the talent of a dead fetus.
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Yeah? And why do they think that exactly? Couldn't be because they and their Primarch gave up nearly everything holding the shattered Imperium together when the other legions and primarchs either sought to rebuild or buggered off to deal with their anger/grief when leadership was clearly needed.
Or them managing to be at the forefront of stopping a tyranid hive fleet that was set to consume their homeworld. I mean yeah they got lucky, they were warned because a similar fate befell a few other chapters, but they still had an entire empire within an empire to save.
Or their primarch having to fight a daemon primarch after being caught by surprise and lasting any amount of time.
Or that more than three quarters of the existing chapters follow the codex astartes, something their primarch created and something they are supposed to be masters of.
Nah, all the stuff they have done gives them no reason to think they are pretty damn good. Its not like any other chapter out there does not think similar thanks to their own achievements.
Or them managing to be at the forefront of stopping a tyranid hive fleet that was set to consume their homeworld. I mean yeah they got lucky, they were warned because a similar fate befell a few other chapters, but they still had an entire empire within an empire to save.
Or their primarch having to fight a daemon primarch after being caught by surprise and lasting any amount of time.
Or that more than three quarters of the existing chapters follow the codex astartes, something their primarch created and something they are supposed to be masters of.
Nah, all the stuff they have done gives them no reason to think they are pretty damn good. Its not like any other chapter out there does not think similar thanks to their own achievements.
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Doesn't mean GW can't properly advertise ALL of their products.
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Kanye West is awesome. A douche, but still awesome.
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IMMA LET YOU FINISH, BUT
Ultramarines are way overused, and personally I feel like their fluff is a bit cheesy. Like, when the Imperium is under stress by an alien menace, oh, here come the ultramarines and they kill all the bad guys hooray!
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They do always seem to be undefeated. If anything, they might be at the verge of defeat, but pull through anyway because they are the Ultramarines.
If they are so "great" because they are the "most devoted" or "did really cool stuff" then that is ridiculous. Devotion really only goes so far. Devotion doesn't reflect bullets.
What makes me even more mad is that it seems that every new 40k player that I have ever met always jumps on the bandwagon and starts with Ultramarines. I scorn the day when GW went public. I know that they are a focal point on bringing people into the game and thus increasing the size of their purse, but image if more attention was paid to say, Necrons?
That beings said, it could just all be envy anyway. I am sure if Necrons were depicted over and over again we would be bitching at them too.
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