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I been playing games at my local GW and it seems everyone is obsessed with cheese. Anything i use and win with must be cheese and god help you if you want to take more than one of the same thing in your army. I see much cheesier lists everytime i look on the net but If i take something like an example of Fear of the darkness librarian i get ripped into about it by 3 or 4 guys and the redshirts as i play with someone. There not even in the game. The libby walked into battle in a termie squad. it didn't even ds or pod into battle.

Another guy there got the same thing for having 2 wraithlord in his army and that was from a gw staff guy who has 3 wraithlords and no wraithguards in his iyanden army.

so whats with all the cheese guys? why can't i take what i want without all the comments and people saying maybe we shouldn't let him play in the store?
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Fotd is not in anyway broken. In taht list (2 cheap as dirt librarians with Fotd), what happens when they play nids? Or any other fearless team? They hae basically wasted 210 points.

"Cheese," and most claims of "broken" are made by people who are sore losers. if your army can't beat it, its either broken or cheese. i say my army is better thatn yours, its not my fault! I don't do horrible things in friendly games, but in a tourney? If you say cheese in a tourney, you deserve to be shot.

( i was really harsh there.)

ITs not like the sudden arrival of two force weapon weilding ICs behind their synapse won't cause issues. But the real problem with FOTD is that it is an automatic win against several armies and its not as if the units are useless if the enemy is immune to FOTD either. Basically, if you are Tau or Guard, you may as well pack up your army once the pods land.
Maybe, just maybe- some people go to tournaments to play games of 40k against new people and new armies?
Not to play identical Iron Warriors netlists every game because you must Win At All Costs.

That said, I reserve 'cheese' for a very select few things.

Siren Prince is one- so I need to roll 10 or less on 2 dice to become invisible- I can then stroll forward in front of the enemy and fire out Daemonettes and Mounted Daemonettes without my enemy being able to shoot or assault me to stop this?
Sounds like god-mode to me.

Relying on your opponent to fail a Ld 10 test to even stand a chance in a game, or collecting a completely different army just for one advantage against one model- kind of proves how powerful it can be.
I go to tournaments to play different people. Admittedly, I tend to win, but that's because I don't just make a bum rush with my Marines. Almost everyone with Space Marines just moves forward, throwing tactics to the wind. If you actually play a tactical game with them, though, they're bloody amazing. I've never been accused of being cheesy in a tournament-- in fact, I tend to pick up "best army." Proof that there's more to a tournament than "just winning."
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