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Ok rant time, also known as theoryHammer.

The eldar can't win on grounds of they do not have the numbers needed to launch a war of this scale.

Chaos daemons the same, the greater gods are greedy and every daemon they spawn leeches a portion of their power away. Yes khorne could spawn a billion bloodletters but he would cease to be, khorne being a god and all, will never do that. On top of that when/if the eldar and humanity die out, the chaos gods battery of power will be gone, this will almost utterly decimate deamons as well as...

Traitor Marines have the advantage of extremely long lives 10,000 years of real time experience, which makes for a deadly warrior. the problem is again numbers. Even with the original traitors and all the individuals that have gone rouge since the heresy, chaos marines die of at rate much to high for decent growth. Hell khorne's realm is a battle field, that tens of thousands fight and die by the day for his favor.

Humanity, as much as id like to say would win, is much to fractured to take it all, but it is much to numerous to fall completely. a single message sent out across the segmentums, would marshalize humanity into the single most formidable defensive bastion ever. "The emperor is in danger!!!" would bring every single marine, sister, inquisitor, guardsman, and titan to the sol system. And if they are still alive Dorn, Russ, the Khan, and the Lion would come back and Guilleman would be brought out of stasis. With all of this Terra will never fall, we wont be ale to leave system, but it wont fall.

Which brings me to the last four. Crons, orks, nids, and tau.

Tau have hooves, things with hooves are called live stock. Live stock is for eating, the tau just haven't realized that they are actually quarter pounders yet.

The crons will eventually march upon galaxy extinguishing all life, just warping out and coming back with more number win it gets too bad. The problem is nids and orks eat there foes, and I don't believe digested cron will warp out of an ork gut.

and lastly the eternal stalemate that will rage across everything, and it is simple orks spawn all they need is sunlight to grow, they are after all mushrooms.Which provides the nids the equivalent to a self refilling all you can eat sizzler buffet. orks get bigger and spawn more orks, they kill nids, nids kill orks, nids make more nids from the ultimated food supply, orks spawn more orks.

So in the end Orks and Nids will be EVERYWHERE except sol and All three survivors will never make any real head way again.
 

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The impirial in me wants to say things like "Faith is the most powerfull wepon of all and no damd nid, cron, ork, or daemon can take that from us!"
But realisticly thats bulshit- The only way I can see anyone but the Crons winning is the emporer coming back and psycicly defeating the Necron's Gods- Mortally cripling their operation- wich would lead to a Tirinid victory, and then a gradual dying out of the nids due to the fact that if they win they starve and die out. Implying that it all starts from the begining again.
 

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The Tyranids. I've said this before. The Tyranids bring in full force and kill the Tau and Ultramarines:(. Next, the Shadow in the Warp kicks in and the Emperors defenses against Chaos go down, so Chaos comes flooding through the Cadian Gate and Eye of Terror. The Void Dragon wakes up and the Outsider breaks out of the Dyson Sphere. All the Necrons awaken at once and war breaks out everywhere. Orks get eaten due to Tyranid numbers and the Eldar fail in trying to stop the Necrons, along with the Dark Eldar.All of the Inquisition and Space Marines hold off the C'tan at Terra and the Illuminati sacrifice the Sensei so that the Emperor gets reborn as the Sensei-Emperor. He kills the C'tan and eventually all the races are wiped out by Tyranids. Remember there are trillions and trillions of these things through the void and in other universes. Then the Tyranids go and terrorize another Universe once they have sucked the biomass from every planet so that nothing can be alive ever again.
All of the above = Tyranids = Owning!!!
 

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and lastly the eternal stalemate that will rage across everything, and it is simple orks spawn all they need is sunlight to grow, they are after all mushrooms.Which provides the nids the equivalent to a self refilling all you can eat sizzler buffet. orks get bigger and spawn more orks, they kill nids, nids kill orks, nids make more nids from the ultimated food supply, orks spawn more orks.

So in the end Orks and Nids will be EVERYWHERE except sol and All three survivors will never make any real head way again.

problem w/ that is that if the nids consume all available life in our galaxy, they will simple move on. allowing the orks, if theres any left that thenids havnt fund to re-emerge and start over.
but if the nids have eaten all the biomass in the Galaxy, apart from Sol, there would be no where for the orks to hide, and they would die out. then the nids wuld leave. unless the nids became advanced enought to ctually farm the orks on several planets so they have a constant food supply.
 

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Tau have hooves, things with hooves are called live stock. Live stock is for eating, the tau just haven't realized that they are actually quarter pounders yet.
First things first, i LMAO at this, its the funniest thing i've read yet, my hats off to you sir.

Secondly, even though i still say the necrons, if the emperor, primarchs, all legions and every rag-tag human soldier can all defend an area, like the sol system, then i'd give it to them or failing that a tag-team effort between the eldar and humies, which you can kinda see happening already if you read a few books (including Fulgrim of the HH series).

GO HUMANITY!!!:biggrin:
 

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I say chaos will win out because basically every other race stays away from the eye of terror chaos doznt have to worry about being invaded by anyone but eachother.
 

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The Eldar will get even better at manip... erm, inspiring the Imperium to righteous wrath against the greatest threats. They will find themselves having to fight less and less, and can focus more fully on the Exodite worlds. The Dark Eldar and Harlequins will continue to do what they do; eventually, the race will again be fairly united. Which means the Dark Eldar will stop feeding Slaanesh.
The Necrons will eventually make their way to Cadia, and strengthen the pillars there.
The Imperium may decide it's foolish to squabble amongst themselves and focus on their bigger enemies, such as orcs, which will curb their growth... perhaps do it intelligently (due no doubt to Eldar influence) and strengthen their borders to the point that orcs are directed towards Tau worlds and those infested with tyranids.
 

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The Eldar will get even better at manip... erm, inspiring the Imperium to righteous wrath against the greatest threats. They will find themselves having to fight less and less, and can focus more fully on the Exodite worlds. The Dark Eldar and Harlequins will continue to do what they do; eventually, the race will again be fairly united. Which means the Dark Eldar will stop feeding Slaanesh.
The Necrons will eventually make their way to Cadia, and strengthen the pillars there.
The Imperium may decide it's foolish to squabble amongst themselves and focus on their bigger enemies, such as orcs, which will curb their growth... perhaps do it intelligently (due no doubt to Eldar influence) and strengthen their borders to the point that orcs are directed towards Tau worlds and those infested with tyranids.

All well and good but where does it all go? Whos gonna be the victor? Maybe thats the point, there will be no victor and by that i mean every single race, entity, life essence destroyed leaving a barren universe...or not...
 

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as already said whatever happens will benefit the ruinous powers anger and war = khorne
death and sorrow = nurgle etc
 

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Imperium because I do not want to be denounced as a heritic. With the Ultramarines as the heroes.


Tyranids/Orks/Chaos realistically due to their overwhelming numbers.
 

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Orks!

The Imperium will perish at the hands of the forces of Chaos, who will then eradicate the Eldar stain from the galaxy, then burn themselves out. The dark eldar have no real ambitions towards galactic conquest. The tyranids will wipe out the tau, and with very little organic life left in the galaxy, move on to pastures new. The necrons will go back to sleep for the same reason, and then all those ork spores lying dormant will awaken, and a new Green Empire will rise.
 

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nids for many resons, they take the strongest bits from the races it kills. so it could become more ork like, maybe leaving behind spore when they die. so they would at one point just out last orks becoming far more powerful and resilant.

tau just because they outnumber them and tau just can not fight them as well.

necrons because it just may be possiable that they will avoid them till they are strong enough to beat them fully and strip the very centre of the tomb plant out. using there vast warp mind to overpower the ctan gods.

humans and sm and csm just by sheer constant fighting, no way they can fight for ever

and if there are no humans left then no souls for the gods of chaos, eg says in book that althogh nids are very psychic, they neaver draw demons to them, this can be for 2 resons.

no soul or have such control over the very warp that they simply can not be used by demons.

so nids rule :victory:
 

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The Imperium can never win for several reasons; the main one being that if the Chaos Gods are defeated then the Warp will close and all Human worlds will be cut off from each other and will die.

Necrons and Tyranids are the only races that can really have a chance of a total victory. All the other races depend on the Warp too much to survive its destruction.
 

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The cruel joke of it all is that Chaos has already claimed victory. The entire galaxy is plunged in war; serving Khorne. The ultimate demise of any race serves Nurgle. The evolution of change, even through Nids, serves Tzeentch. And the pleasure taken in any of it serves Slannesh.

Go ahead, do whatever you want; the primal powers will live forever.
Exactly what he said.
 

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chaos has won easily..why beacause they can't loose. Sure you can kill all the marines but then what about the daemons, there is an infinite supply of them and when you kill them they just respawn back in the warp:shok: anyway once the bluescribs have found all the peices of tzeentchs crystal staff then he will use it's power to claim back the universe.
 

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chaos has won easily..why beacause they can't loose. Sure you can kill all the marines but then what about the daemons, there is an infinite supply of them and when you kill them they just respawn back in the warp:shok: anyway once the bluescribs have found all the peices of tzeentchs crystal staff then he will use it's power to claim back the universe.
The Necrons can close off the Warp from real space, meaning that Chaos will not be able to influance the physical realm in any way. They actually do have the technology and the insane power to do that.
 
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