Warhammer 40k Forum and Wargaming Forums banner

1 - 20 of 115 Posts

·
Warlord of Vermin
Joined
·
882 Posts
Discussion Starter #1 (Edited)
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/wnt/blog.jsp?pid=12800022

first of all, holy fucking shit. Weekly? white dwarf is getting bad as it is with tactical content, but now the're going for weekly releases

also they are releasing a monthly mag called Warhammer visions

"Warhammer: Visions, now monthly.

Warhammer: Visions will be available on the first Saturday every month in your local Games Workshop store, Independent Stockist, games-workshop.com and local newsstands in the UK, Europe and Australia.

Warhammer: Visions is a completely new monthly magazine, also from the White Dwarf team. It’s unlike anything we’ve ever done before and this super high-quality visual feast weighs in at a whopping 236 pages, each and every month."

thoughts?

i know i have a few questions

1. How much is this going to rip out of my wallet?
2. is it even worth getting every weekly issue? i prefer the monthly release.
3. is 4 weekly mags going to be equal to the monthly mag in terms of price, content and value?
4. why warhammer visions as well as the weekly?

what say you heresy members?
 

·
Warlord of Vermin
Joined
·
882 Posts
Discussion Starter #3
yeah i just recently got a 12 month subscription, whats gonna happen to that i wonder?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,629 Posts
They said the weekly magazine was going to cost the same as a pot of paint so it'll be about £3 at the moment. Next up, a price increase on tubs of paint to £18 :laugh:

No idea on the monthly one price.
The little one also claims it's going to have rules and such in there too.

I'm interested to find out what they'll be like
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
5,182 Posts
So they have finally gone and killed WD. Without sounding too cynical, it loosk like they are trying to bleed more money out of us by having a weekly mag. I may get the first one and see whats its like.

I can't see how they are going to fill visions every month though. They are pretty vague about what is going to be in it, but if its just pictures of nicely painted models it will get old pretty quick.
 

·
Heresy Online's Pet Furby
Joined
·
8,723 Posts
They are pretty vague about what is going to be in it, but if its just pictures of nicely painted models it will get old pretty quick.
Probably round about March 2014?
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
5,182 Posts
The rumor also says that the weekly is little more than an ad magazine, most of it is new products.
So not that much different to the current one :laugh:
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,629 Posts
There's a rumor that they will have a weekly and monthly. The rumor also says that the weekly is little more than an ad magazine, most of it is new products.
If you go throught the link Tech provided in the op - it's not rumour, it's confirmed :)

I just want to know what happens to the subscribers - do we get weekly, monthly or cancelled :)
 

·
I am Alpharius.
Joined
·
8,375 Posts
Weekly White Dwarf not being available at Newsstands is a real deal breaker for me. I am not traveling half way across the country to pick one up from a Independent Stockist, nor am I particularly interested in waiting roughly two weeks to receive out of date advertisements by ordering it from their website.

Might pick up Warhammer Visions just to try it out once, but by the sounds of it will just be a glorified picture feast and not much else, which really isn‘t worth it in my view.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
5,182 Posts
Might pick up Warhammer Visions just to try it out once, but by the sounds of it will just be a glorified picture feast and not much else, which really isn‘t worth it in my view.
I remember back in the day, before the internet, people used to get monthly magazines just for the pictures. Although that wasn't anything to do with figures ....
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
211 Posts
Let us not forget a very important detail: both the new White Dwarf and Warhammer: Visions will be only available in english.

They just murdered their market. I don't foresee anyone I know ever considering buying one ever again. I don't know how my FLGS will manage to use such magazines to keep anyone interested in the hobby; if my club wasn't around I don't even think they'd be able to get people at all. Good for them that they're an independent store I guess, so they don't have to sink with the ship and all.

I seriously have no idea what they're thinking, it's like they're setting themselves up for failure in a desperate attempt to milk their fanbase dry for money until nothing remains. I see no single advantage, quality-wise, in this manoeuvre.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
682 Posts
The little one also claims it's going to have rules and such in there too.
I have said to my friends for a long time this is the way that WD needs to be implemented. Rather than an Ad magazine it needs to be a rule-tweaking and concept testing ground. I don't mind that most adverts are now front loaded: it's nice to know upcoming releases. However what I don't want is an ad every-other page like a comic book.

I honestly believe they could ramp the price to £5 a shot and do a bi-weekly that covered 40k-Warham rule tweaks and scenario ideas, with adverts for either in both.

However I fear it's going to be inane articles about how rules balance isn't an issue and why taking X character is a good idea in your homebrew campaign where they are survivable just like WD Online currently is.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
70 Posts
I just got told this on saturday by the nurgling who runs my local GW. According to him the weekly release is going to be about £2:50 - £3 and will be about 50 pages he said it was going to be more focused on up coming releases, events and that sort of thing he did also mention that this could indicate the GW poilcy of new releases at the start of the month. The 250+ page warhammer visions monthly release he said was going to be around £7 and would be focused more on modeling, painting, armies on parade as well as a lot more tactical / game play based articles.
Most interestingly he did point out that he had already been assured that any existing subscriptions to white dwarf would be honoured and the subscriber would be receiving both issues for the remainder of their subscription with no extra charge.
He seemed almost as suprised by that as I was but said he'd been told that three seperate times.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
83 Posts
I remember back in the day, before the internet, people used to get monthly magazines just for the pictures. Although that wasn't anything to do with figures ....
You mean adult magazines? :biggrin:

Though someone find something to do with that pictures :whistle:
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
682 Posts
Confirmed through my GW facebook page:

Existing subscribers get Visions monthly.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,825 Posts
My LGS owner was talking about this last night. White Dwarf is going weekly because the GW product release is going weekly. He was very clear about what he'd been told. "This is designed to get people into the stores more often and buying things more often. Which they say is a good thing for me. And it is."

But he also made it sound like buying every WD was not necessary for every player. So the WD and that week's release may only affect certain armies or even just one of the game systems. But for people who buy a lot, money may get tight, especially if these WD contain new rules. I'm hoping they have hard copies of all those new digital data slats they've been doing. A weekly, 50 page magazine could do 1-2 of those an issue.

My store owner said the best part, at least for him, was that stores would now be able to return unsold copies for reimbursement. GW must be thinking these are going to sell like crazy.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,190 Posts
the weekly release is going to be about £2:50 - £3 and will be about 50 pages he said it was going to be more focused on up coming releases, events and that sort of thing

The 250+ page warhammer visions monthly release he said was going to be around £7 and would be focused more on modeling, painting, armies on parade as well as a lot more tactical / game play based articles.
So according to this source, instead of paying £5.50 per month for (what, 250 odd pages? I haven't bought a WD in decades) then we're paying £10-12 for 200 pages. That's crap by itself. Then on to the content:

"More focused on upcoming releases".

How the fuck do you get any MORE focused on releases than WD already?? There's already something on the order of 20 pages+ just to cover the Tyranid boxes in this month. How many pictures do you need of the same damn models that you can see online for the cost of nothing?

"events"

What events? GW has pretty much cancelled any support they've shown to the tournament scene, as well as cancelling Invasion, which was the only semi-regular thing that went on for anyone other than locals at GWHQ. The annual Games Day? In a weekly magazine? The only way this would be even slightly useful would be if they encouraged and supported independant clubs to pop them an email about upcoming tourneys with details of the event - that way we could get a list of tourneys up and down the country that are happening each month, which would increase attendance and therefore hobby uptake and profits.

The 250+ page warhammer visions monthly release he said was going to be around £7 and would be focused more on modeling, painting, armies on parade as well as a lot more tactical / game play based articles.
£7?? Hah. They'd better be including a free miniature with every damn copy then. For pictures of models that you can find online for free? I... just don't see it. Unless it includes things like full page art spreads you can't find anywhere else, concept art for upcoming releases and original works by third parties (never, ever going to happen).

As for tactics articles, first they would actually need writers who can play the game fucking competitively. Going by every battle report and "tactics" article EVER then no such person exists at GWHQ. Flat.

I'll look at the first copies before making a final judgement, but I don't see any redeeming features to either of these decisions.
 
1 - 20 of 115 Posts
Top