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Hello everyone

I played German Lehr Panzergrenadier FoW army for a little bit a couple of years ago and really enjoyed it and then i moved on to other systems and most recently Bolt Action. Anyway my gaming club are planning a combined campaign involving both Flames of War and Bolt Action, we do not need to have both but we can do. This is really uniting the two halfs of the same coin and a lot of us are planning on making the other system of our armies and this has been encouraged my also making it a escalation campaign. (I know a lot of moving parts but, i am not running it )

So i play Russians in Bolt Action and now want to continue this into Flames of War and have been drawn to a late war Russian Motostrelkovy batalon. I want something that is competitive and that i can paint up to be historically accurate. My priorities are in that order and as my Bolt Action force has a nice mixture of both tanks and infantry so i want the same in my FoW army.

I will be writing up 1250, 1450, 1650, 1850, 2000 point lists after i have settled on a good 1000point list to build on and this is where i am stuck, i have 2 lists that i am weighing up, both are Motostrelkovy batalon (Red Army) from Desperate Measures at exactly 1000points each

Next are the two lists, i would appreciate you look over the both and then vote in the poll above

List 1:

Compulsory Motostrelkovy Batalon HQ - CinC Rifle, 2iC Rifle

Compulsory Motostrelkovy Company - Command SMG, 7x SMG
- Replace SMG with Panzerfaust SMG

Compulsory Motostrelkovy Company - Command SMG, 7x SMG
- Replace SMG with Panzerfaust SMG

Motorised Anti-tank Company - Command Rifle, 4x 57mm ZIS-2 gun
- Truck per gun
- 4x Add .50cal AA MG to M2 or M3 half-track

Tankovy Company - Command T-34 obr 1942, 4x T-34 obr 1942, 5x SMG Tank Escort
- Add Cupolas to all T-34 obr 1942

Motorised Artillery Battalion - Command Rifle, Staff, 4x 76mm ZIS-3 field gun
- 4x Truck (only if 4x gun)
- 4x Add .50cal AA MG to M2 or M3 half-track

Spetsnaz Platoon - Command SMG, 2x SMG, 2x Captured Sd Kfz 251 half-track
- Replace Command SMG with Command Panzerfaust SMG

List 2:

Compulsory Motostrelkovy Batalon HQ - CinC Rifle, 2iC Rifle

Compulsory Motostrelkovy Company - Command SMG, 14x SMG
- Replace SMG with Panzerfaust SMG

Compulsory Motostrelkovy Company - Command SMG, 7x SMG
- Replace SMG with Panzerfaust SMG

Motorised Anti-tank Company - Command Rifle, 4x 45mm obr 1942 gun

Heavy Mortar Company - Command Rifle, 4x 120-PM-38 mortar
- Observer Rifle

Medium Assault Gun Company - Command SU-85, 4x SU-85

Spetsnaz Platoon - Command SMG, 2x SMG, 2x Captured Sd Kfz 251 half-track

Thank you for taking the effort to read through all this

Leave any comments you have below

 

[Tawa]

Whilst I only played FoW the once, I would go for list 1 :good:

It should look pretty intimidating from across the table!

 

[Khorne's Fist]

I assume you're using Red Bear? The assault guns in the second list have the benefit of volley fire, which is a great rule. You really need T34/85s to add some punch in the first list, but they could come in later when you up the points limit. Personally I'd try and squeeze in some Guards tanks that don't suffer from Hen and Chicks, which is a horrible rule. Or even the Hero companies from the latest Eastern Front book.

 

[Minigiant]

Thank you for replying

I assume you're using Red Bear? The assault guns in the second list have the benefit of volley fire, which is a great rule.

i have 2 lists that i am weighing up, both are Motostrelkovy batalon (Red Army) from Desperate Measures at exactly 1000points each

 

[Khorne's Fist]

Apologies, I just went straight to the lists.

I just looked at this on EasyArmy. On the whole because of the better FP I think the heavy mortars are a better arty option than the Zis-3s, and I just saw that the assault guns have semi-indirect fire instead of volley fire, which is even better. 10 AT12 shots that reroll at long range is always good. So list no.2 for me.

Personally I would try to upgrade to the Hero list for the Luckier, Smarter, Sharper rules, which mitigate some of the weaknesses of Russians in general, but I know they come at a premium.