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i was playing before he was released and when he was he looked awesome in his robes

but whats happened to him ?
 

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i was playing before he was released and when he was he looked awesome in his robes

but whats happened to him ?
Do you mean where is he now?

But i do know hes not available on the GW site. But i do know he is one of the fallen etc. He can be included in one Chaos army as a HQ i think is that right?
 

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What are you trying to ask? What happened to the mini, or the character himself? I dunno about the mini, but as for the character, there are rumors circulating that believe that Cypher is actually Lion El'Jonson himself, due to the fact that he has been seen with the fabled "Lion Sword" that he never actually uses in combat. Probably common knowledge, eh?
 

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He's a Fallen Dark Angel. It makes some sense to put him with Chaos, but it seems a bit iffy as far as staying canon. Just my opinion.
 

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They put him on the Chaos list to throw noobs off....

He is considered a Fallen Dark Angel who has seen the error of his ways.... He is rumoured to carry the Lion Sword and his random sightings make a pattern that has him eventually returning to Holy Terra.

According to uber-conspiracy canon, he will use the sword to free the Emperor's Soul from the Golden Throne and thus bring the prophecy of the Star Child to fruition.

Of course, GW will never actually let that happen, because it would radically shift the paradigms of the 40k universe.....
 

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In 3rd edition Cypher is the most notorious of the Fallen. He was usable in 3rd edition of the chaos codex but was removed in the 4th edition for unknown reasons. It has been stated that Jervis has said he does not consider the Fallen as chaos or even followers of chaos. We may see him in another codex soon, or he might just be removed from the game completely.
 

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no just what happened to him.

hence i had dante for blood angels and then they took him away "in theory"

people who had cypher for dark angels i see him no more on tables
 

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He is no longer part of any rulebook so has no rules to go with the mini at the current time. As such, any real discussion on him really belongs in fluff now so....

Moved to 40K Fluff


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Do you mean where is he now?

But i do know hes not available on the GW site. But i do know he is one of the fallen etc. He can be included in one Chaos army as a HQ i think is that right?
I saw some rules for him the other day saying He could be used in a guard Force and a Chaos Force.

What dpes'nt make sense is why would he fight for Chaos if he wants to be forgiven By the Emperor (by fixing the Lion Sword).
 

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I saw some rules for him the other day saying He could be used in a guard Force and a Chaos Force.

What dpes'nt make sense is why would he fight for Chaos if he wants to be forgiven By the Emperor (by fixing the Lion Sword).
now you know how people feel about other armies they screw up

next they will say captain tycho will be fighting for the orks
 

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well game wise you can use him in a imperial guard army and chaos army as an elite choice (he's an independent character aswell sooooo)

lore wise he's on his way to terra apparently still got another couple of light years to go.
 

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well game wise you can use him in a imperial guard army and chaos army as an elite choice (he's an independent character aswell sooooo)

lore wise he's on his way to terra apparently still got another couple of light years to go.
and Fighting a 1 on 1 match with the Deceiver Apparently...
 

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yep he got cut....much like all Chaos Word Bearer Dark Apostles...well ones that have specific rules..hmm another reason for a SM Legions Codex
 

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Im pretty sure you can get the cypher model on the gw site, hes under collectables in chaos i think, he just looks like a dark angel but without the emblem, i think
 

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In 3rd edition he was playable for either Chaos or Imperial Guard armies. His profile was in the Chaos book. He's one of the fallen that the dark angels are trying to keep secret, interrogator chaplains in 3rd edition had special rules concerning enemy knowing things about the fallen and they gained so many VP's (even if the army was fighting Tyranids yeah I know stupid). Anyway they dropped him after 3rd and now he's only mentioned in fluff, supposedly vanishing and reappearing closer and closer to Terra.
 

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He was rumored to be the "Voice of the Emporer" during the 13th Black Crusade that brought about system wide uprisings. (I have the book I just don't remember where in the book it mentions this. Will have to look). That's the last time I saw any real reference to him.
 

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you gotta remember, if a character is really cool, and becomes extremely popular and is talked about every time you go near another gamer, BUT is not an ultramarine, GW will get rid of them, thats probably the most ridiculous but most believable reason why GW got rid of him.

but he was cool, one of those characters where everyone hears something about him but nobody knows if its true, he was like the LT Speirs of 40k, everyone heard from another guy who got it from someone else whos friend was there that he did X a thing at Z a place.
 
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