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Ah fool that i am, 'man on fire' is taken already.
I noticed this but figured i'd mention it after i had some more info for an update. It would have been ideal if i hadn't already used it.

How about reign of fire? Dante's Inferno? Trogdor?
Dante's inferno i've not seen, i don't know why it doesn't sit right with me...i think it's because of Dante being a character in the 40k universe already. Trogdor is a whole nother issue, it seems i would have issues with it burninating the countryside, peasants and thatched roof cottages if i name it Trogdor.. Reign of fire i like, I might drop event horizon and save it for the next Destroyer i do. My Missus suggested "The Core" and i think i might try "Kiss of the Dragon", that will make up the triplet.

Faia..... its simple and translates to fire from japanese, now i know japanese aint always used but it did Nagasana no harm from the Horus Heresy series while he was hunting renegade marines on Terra.

Failing that what about "Purifier of Hades" or "Immolater of Hades" ?

All good names however i'm trying to name each tank in the army after a film and as far as i can tell these aren't film names.


Bit of an update, i went to work today and was picking up some paints whilst i was there when i suddenly remembered that we had just started stocking the anarchy miniatures airbrush masks. I figured that there might be an opportunity to try something funky on the flame tanks so i picked up some of the scale pattern templates. The hotrod flames one was a little too cliche'd for my liking so i figured fire breathing dragon scales was a step in teh right direction. I pretty much got on with them as soon as i got home tonight, i might be able to paint this squadron before i go on holiday on Friday night.




I'm pretty happy with how they look, i think that once i get the other colours down the scales will be a little more broken up and once i've gotten the washes on they'll match the rest of the company a little better.


Oh also i found some old metal models that with a little work i was able to turn into an infantry squad. The Vengrosians are getting some ground pounders added to their force.

 

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So i'm on holiday which mean that i have had to put some of my larger projects on hold. I have however brought a couple of infantry squads with me. Including the guardsmen from the post above and some white panthers.


Here is the test mini for the guard, i decided to go really dark with their skintones because i felt pale skin might get lost against the camo.
 

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So after a couple of days on holiday i've managed to get a load more of the infantry done for my guard, they're taking a lot longer than i was expecting. There are so many different inks in effect that i seem to be constantly having to wait for a model to dry. Normally i would move onto the next in this kinda situation but i can't seem to get myself in the right frame of mind for that kinda painting. I'm focussing on one guy at a time and making sure each one is how i want before moving onto the next.

Even now looking at these pictures i can see one guy who needs one of his eyes fixed and a couple of pouches that i must have missed when i went over with the washes.

Anyway, here are the shots of the squad so far. I'll also mention that because i'm not at home i am having issues with lighting in these pictures.

Missile launcher (the loader is still on the painting board)


2 New grunts (I imagine the guy on the right as being a rookie who hasn't ditched most of his gear yet, or maybe he's a packrat who has borrowed some additional fatigues from another regiment...who knows)





The Sargeant




And everybody hanging out together.

 

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Great work on the guardsmen, i think the skin tone works really well with the colours you've chosen. You've managed to get a lot of character into these chaps :)

I'm not 100% sold on the scales but i agree they should look really cool once the details are finished :victory:




p.s if you wanted films with a fire theme, surely you have to have a tank called backdraft!?
 

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Looking very good! Your guard would be welcome to repel the ork menace beside mine any time. I love the 'irregular' look you've gone for, it works really well and I think will fit in well as a group of grizzled mechanised veterans who have to put up with tankies all the time!
 

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Really like the desert camo. Nice and simply but offers a really strong and dramatic effect!

Also always positive to see former lost souls return to the Imperium!
 

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Ummm comander.... It specifies in the uplifting primer that defacing or customising
Imperial equipment is punishable by death at the hands of the nearest commissar.
I Assure you Lord Libre that no Soldier within my Regiment would ever deface their equipment. If however their wargear turns out to be of a substandard quality and is damaged then i have no problem with them using substitutes until such a time as they are able to find the correct replacment. If i catch anyone breaching these rules then i shall be sure to notify Commissar King, as soon as he's finished airbrushing purity flames on the side of his chainsword.

Brigadier Grimzag


Love the stencilled patterning on those hellhounds.

And classic guardsmen! Amazing!
Great work on the guardsmen, i think the skin tone works really well with the colours you've chosen. You've managed to get a lot of character into these chaps :)

I'm not 100% sold on the scales but i agree they should look really cool once the details are finished :victory:
it seems to be a mixed thing with the scales, my missus likes them more than i do. I'm really hoping that they get broken up a little by the other colours.
p.s if you wanted films with a fire theme, surely you have to have a tank called backdraft!?
Not sure how we missed this. I'm also not sure what logo i would paint for it. Each tanks has a little logo to go with its name. Reign of fire will be a crown made of flames. The Core will be a planet splitting open with the flames coming out. Kiss of the dragon will be a set of lips made of flames.


Looking very good! Your guard would be welcome to repel the ork menace beside mine any time. I love the 'irregular' look you've gone for, it works really well and I think will fit in well as a group of grizzled mechanised veterans who have to put up with tankies all the time!
Really like the desert camo. Nice and simply but offers a really strong and dramatic effect!
Also always positive to see former lost souls return to the Imperium!
If i'm ever Ozways i'll have to try and bring my guard along. See if we can set up a megabattle against some xeno's, heck if i bring my brother then we could have a mega ork vs guard game.


Update time.

I've more or less finished the infantry squad, well as much as i can until i get back home. I don't have flock or greenstuff with me so that'll need to wait till i'm back in Blighty. Also the pictures are poop so again i'll need to dig out my lightbox area when i get home.

For now here are the nearly complete WIPS





Continuing my nameing theme i've decided that all of the characters in this army will be named after authors that i like. With that in mind the Corporal for this squad is Corporal Koontz with his second Lance Corporal Child.



I wasn't happy with the conversion that i'd done on Child so i've taken her arm off and the backpack off, i'll resculpt these then i get home, the rest of the model is painted so this shouldn't take too long to complete once the greenstuff is dried.


And a group shot, pretty dark but i can't help that right now.
 

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The only thing that detracts from the overall feel for me is the eyes. You're brave to have a go, and clearly have some skill, but they're not perfect. And in my view, eyes are something that have to be dead on, or they just look a bit goofy.

Also not a fan of names on the bases.

Sorry to be a Debby downer.
 

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I also have some orks to contribute... Though unfortunately I'm miles away from where the civilised folk dwell.
 

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The only thing that detracts from the overall feel for me is the eyes. You're brave to have a go, and clearly have some skill, but they're not perfect. And in my view, eyes are something that have to be dead on, or they just look a bit goofy.

Also not a fan of names on the bases.

Sorry to be a Debby downer.
Hmm after having a look at the eyes i noticed a few that are a little goofy looking so i blacked them back out, then i decided that maybe i should have a look at some videos of people painting faces and eyes online to see if there is anything i can do to get a more solid looking feel. After 6 or so vids, most of which seem to use a similar method to the one i was already doing, i came away with 2 new little tips for improving the eyes.
1: On models with a bronze or darker skintone, don't use white for the white of the eyes. The contrast is too damn high and the eyes end up looking cartoony. Instead use an off white or ivory. I switched out my "skull white" for army painter "skeleton bone".
2: Don't paint the pupils towards the centre of the eye or when you look at the model from the front it will look like this.


Instead paint them slightly closer to the nose so that both eyes appear to be facing forwards. With this in mind i redid all but 2 of the models eyes.

So we have before:

and
after:


I do think that the models are suffering a little bit from the size of the pictures, viewed at normal size the eyes don't seem anywhere near as horrible as these make them appear. See


Also i've removed the names, i'll be redoing them but i'm using tranfers. whilst i like having names on the models so i can develope the fluff a little better i don't feel the scruffy looking freehand writing that i do is in keeping with an imperial army. orks sure, freehanded names on the side of the tanks..ok. but not on something that should to all intents and purposes be viewed as being an official record. I'll print out names and rank badges on transfer paper to get the effect i want.


heh heh heH ha ha HA HA HA. PRETTY ToYz ta play wiV i look forwards TA sMashIN dem Ta bITz.

Dey Is lookin good for PUNY HUMIE SchTuff.

Eragon springs to mind as a movie for your flame tanks. contains dragons
Errrmmmm....yes. I've got a lot of flame tank names now...i just remembered that i was going to call one of them "Liar Liar"

I also have some orks to contribute... Though unfortunately I'm miles away from where the civilised folk dwell.
i'm game and i can sedate Honka for long enough to get him on a plane, i'll slip somthing into his milk and he'll be fine. Realistically though it'll need to wait, there is no way i could afford the journey and carriage that transporting my orks and guard would require. Maybe when i'm a rich and famous writer with my own private jet.

Also the squad is now finished.



I'm trying to work out how the platoon/company/regiment structure works for these guys at the moment. I should have another squad of them in a couple of months once i've finished all the other projects that i've got on hold still but the problem is that i've used a lot of the metal catachans in a single squad and i'm not a fan of the plastic ones so much. if i don't want to repeat the poses i'll have to think outside the box a little.

I've come up with a way of tackling the problem of the missing crew on my artillery tanks as well. I've got a few of the old RT imperial soldiers but they're pretty short.
PS: that's how he came from ebay.

However they're wearing different uniform and won't seem so small when raised up on the bed of a vehicle artillery piece. With that in mind i've decided that Tank regiments in the Vengrosian regiment wear the above style uniform, although in more suitable colours. Tankers will be RT guardsmen.
 

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The new eyes look a lot better, but there is still a lot more white in them than there should be. The whites of the eyes usually only cover a small area, and certainly not more than the iris. I don't do eyes that often but i usually try and fill most of the middle of the eye with the iris colour, and just have slivers of white on either side.


Regardless these are looking very cool, the camo and detail work on the ammo belts is fantastic and they are absolutely brimming with character :victory:
 

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Good plog, like the work, the last picture of the chimera is really nice, the scale effect really stands out well the tanks at the start of the plog look like the paint was put on a bit too heavy on the camo stripes, and as others have said if you use a stencil for the names on the bases it would really help them pop, keep upbthe very good work
 

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Just a stencil and a AB?
An anarchy miniatures stencil and a can of army painter desert yellow. My AB Kung fu is not strong.

Good plog, like the work, the last picture of the chimera is really nice, the scale effect really stands out well the tanks at the start of the plog look like the paint was put on a bit too heavy on the camo stripes, and as others have said if you use a stencil for the names on the bases it would really help them pop, keep upbthe very good work
Thanks dude, funny that you should mention the camp stripes on the tanks. They're actually the areas that were masked off, so the paint on the stripes is thinner than the paint on the rest of the hull. Hopefully ill get the other 2 tanks in this formation done tonight.
 
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