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While I was hitting the rumour mill on a few boards, I came across the Warseer thread concerning the new Chaos changes. Two big things stand out, both brought out in this quote from Brimstone (who as many may already know is THE man in the know). Dig it:

Originally Posted by gojira316
As long as the fluffy IW list will still allow me to do my current 2 Dreadnought, 2 Defiler, 9 Obliterator list I will be very pleased with the new Chaos codex. If Obliterators are being moved to heavy support for all legions including IW I may need to rethink it. And I just started playing this list too, that makes me sad panda.
I'd start rethinking it if I was you.

You may want to consider Thousand Sons/Tzeentch.
Ok, no more 9 Oblit IW lists rocks but that second part has me experiencing heart palpitations already. And that is with no info added in whatsoever. All I know is that by the sounds of this post, Thousand Sons will at the very least be redone and made into a usable army again!


*does the happy dance of Tzeentch
 

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Hoorah!
Time to repaint my 2nd ed style Thousand Sons into a updated Darker paint scheme at last and stop wearing the studded undergarments of Slannnesh for a while. (They do so chafe.)

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*joins the line too* alright! now chaos has its own sorcerers that can push their weight around as a legion better :D
Well, WILL have :lol:
 

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More chaos always good, a more restrictive less abuseable IW list also good.

And yes I also play them, but I have made it a rule for myself to take
either a basilisk or a vindicator. Not both!

I've been on the receiving end of 6 obliterators, a basilisk and a
vindicator and let me tell you even as a mellow gamer I got very
annoyed halfway through that game...that same night I made a solumn
oath to the dark gods that I would not abuse the IW list :wink:

Moving Obliterators to HS wouldn't all that bad either, although I use
them quite differently in my IW force. I take two of them each operating
independently.

As long as this means that lists like word bearers, thousand sons and
alpha legion (as well as all others) will actually get some new rules/units
and/or models I'll be very pleased!



Hold on here, where are all the beautyful conga girls :)
 

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I'll reserve any kind of hope or discord until there is actual concrete evidence that the codex, codices, whatever are actually being worked on. So far it's still been redshirt heresay and no one can agree on how many books seem to be in the works unless i've missed something. I would like more balance to all the lists, and the above would be ok, but I'll not get too excited yet.
 

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The Wraithlord said:
All I know is that by the sounds of this post, Thousand Sons will at the very least be redone and made into a usable army again!


*does the happy dance of Tzeentch
I'm all for happy Tzeentch dances, especially if on a Disk of Tzeentch, but they are far from unplayable. If anything, maybe they'll make Airhiman (sp) playable. Poor guy got sooooo nerfed.
 

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Mmm what about gettting IW getting warsmith again or w/e i beleive their special HQ chioce thingy was, ooh and maybe dumping dark apostles summoning stick down to 30 points, 40 for what it does is... ouchies, giving that extra 10 points would be reallly nice to spend on another war gear or something
 

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blkdymnd said:
I'll reserve any kind of hope or discord until there is actual concrete evidence that the codex, codices, whatever are actually being worked on. So far it's still been redshirt heresay and no one can agree on how many books seem to be in the works unless i've missed something. I would like more balance to all the lists, and the above would be ok, but I'll not get too excited yet.
If it were anyone aside from Brimstone saying that then I wouldn't have even bothered to quote it. However, Brim is usually spot on with his info about all things new from GW. How he knows is anyones guess but you can usually take his hints and such at face value. Even he will admit that things can still change but usually he doesn't give away anything until things are fairly certain. As for codexes, the current feeling is that there will be 2 or 3. Undivided for certain and either one book for all 4 cults or 2 books with 2 cults each.

I'm all for happy Tzeentch dances, especially if on a Disk of Tzeentch, but they are far from unplayable. If anything, maybe they'll make Airhiman (sp) playable. Poor guy got sooooo nerfed.
No army is unplayable really, but like Grey Knights and a couple others, Thousand Sons are a severely limited, costly, and comparatively ineffective list when placed next to most other armies, especially the other Chaos and Imperial Marine lists. Think about the pros/cons that the Sons have when put next to Iron Warriors or Emperors Children. The cons far outweigh the pros no matter how you look at it. Yes, they are playable but if two players of equal skill face off in a game with IW on one side and Tsons on the other, 9 of 10 times the Tsons player is going to lose and lose badly.

Another example is Dark Eldar (who are in FAR more need of an update than Chaos without a doubt). Dark Eldar are insanely good in the right hands but the learning curve required makes them a very very hard army for the average gamer to use. The army isn't anywhere near unplayable but it is definitely disadvantaged next to most other armies.
 

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If this is true, I can't wait to see it. I might have to do some Thousand Sons... I wonder how the Night Lords will look. They need to be alot more specialized as well.
 

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Man the idea of Tson units with AP3 bolters and the ability to take Oblits and Bikes, etc, not to mention the idea of the entire army having an Inv save..... jeebus I think I have wood.
 

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Wraithlord, I think it may be time for you to take a day or two and spend them quietly away from your miniatures...
 

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I just can't stop fondling them...... :hyper:
 
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