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((I have long felt that the Sisters of Battle had overtones of the Teutonic Knights and have taken some inspiration from that group in the creation of my Order's fluff. I intend to keep building this fluff, not least as my army grows (damned hard these days, thank you, GW) but for the moment I would welcome all insights and critiques.))

Here follows, as requested, the salient information concerning the Adepta Sororitas Order of Glory Undimmed.

++Thought for the day: A bullet may have a name on it, burning promethium is simply addressed 'to whom it may concern'.++

The Order of Glory Undimmed
Aucto Splendore Resurgo



An Order Minoris of the convent Prioris of holy Terra. Founded in 777.M41 the Order's homeworld, Avaris almost immediately came under attack from remnants of the broken Hive Fleet Behemoth. The Order, badly under-equipped and inexperienced, suffered massive losses in the fighting. Indeed, Tyranid specimens recovered by the Magos Biologicos near the end of the war showed distinct gold flecks in their carapaces – speculated to be due to the volume of gold ceramite they had consumed. Nevertheless, faith prevailed, as it always must, and the Order learned how to fight the great devourer, aided somewhat be the acquisition of vehicles and heavy weaponry and the arrival of an Imperial Guard force on Avaris.

The Order took the lessons of their early years to heart and to this day when called to open battle, favour overwhelming weight of armour and fire-power. One might call it an unsubtle style of warfare, but then, the Order of Glory Undimmed is a purposefully unsubtle force. Deliberately created so – to be a visible reminder of the glory and majesty of Him on Earth. To this end the Sisters are clad in bright gold armour chased in platinum and adamantium. The armour and weapons of the Sisters Superior are set with precious stones and engraved with images of the Saints and prayers of hatred.

The Order are not so regimented or homogeneous as some. Due to their practices, especially the errantry of the Commandery Secundus the Sisters of the Order place great value in individuality and in the usefulness of bringing many differing mindsets to bare on a single issue. The Hierarchy certainly exists within the Order, and the word of the Canonness or her Sisters Superior is inviolate, but in reaching a decision, all input is welcome and all Sisters are expected to be self-sufficient and independent. All but the most junior of Sisters have some marks, trophies or icons on their armour telling of their individual deeds and triumphs. These grow in number until the most senior Sisters wear armour as ornamented as any Cathedral.

Currently the Order has a nominal strength of six-hundred Battle sisters divided into three equal Commanderies, and around the same number of novices, novitiates, priests, preachers and support staff.

Commandery Primus resides permanently on Avaris. Primus is, somewhat surprisingly, composed of the youngest and oldest sisters. All Sisters enter the Commandery Primus upon taking their vows and remain until deemed ready to undertake errantry. Whilst in the Commanndery Primus these young sisters are detached to the Ecclesiarchy's cathedrals and temples around Avaris. They serve as guards and as vergers. They may also be entrusted with other duties to prepare them for the years of errantry ahead. The rest of the Commandery Primus is made up of those sisters too old or injured to serve on the front lines. These reveered veterans continue the training of the novitiates where the schollas progenium left off.

Commandery Secundus still carries out the task for which the Order was founded. The Commandery is divided into dozens of Missions composed of one to a dozen sisters scattered across the southern part of Ultima Segmentum. The Missions move amongst the population guiding and guarding pilgrims, aiding those in need, preaching the Imperial Creed and seeking our heresy. This purpose is why the Order favour such showy, impressive aesthetics. Wherever these Missions of errantry go there is a potent reminder of the glory of old and a symbol of hope for the future. These years of errantry teach the Sisters self-reliance, courage and duty. Sisters of the Order of Glory Undimmed are well known along the major pilrimage routes and many worlds have a legend or two of the gold-clad angel who came with bolter and sword and did what none there could do.

Commandery Tertius is the main fighting force of the Order. Tertius holds the largest number of the Order's vehicles and heavy weapons and all Sisters Seraphim are part of the Third Commandery. Unusually, the Inquisition has placed a troopship, the All Creation, at the disposal of the Order (though not under the Order's direct command, for legal reasons). The wide ranging Commandery Secundus makes a powerful information gathering tool and the Order was granted use of the All Creation so that the Third Commandery could act instantly on any information uncovered by the Second.

All sisters of the Order begin in the Commandery Primus and almost all move on after a few years to the Commandery Secundus. Membership of the Second Commandery may last the rest of a Sister's life – often voluntarily. In other cases, a Sister who has completed at least two tours of errantry, often many more, moves on to the Commandery Tertius. Those Sisters too old or injured for errantry or combat return to the Commandery Primus, bringing with them a lifetime of wisdom and faith for the next generation.

All of the Sisters of the Third Commandery have served at least two Missions of the Second and are the best the Order has. The Sisters Superior of the Third Company are veterans of decades of campaigning, pilgrimage, preaching and questing. Many carry legendary weapons and impressive trophies gained during their adventures.


The Order of glory Undimmed is currently led by Canoness Sarasvati Luceo, a cold, frighteningly intelligent woman whose ascetic, frugal nature is at odds with the style of the Order she leads. She is known to weigh all things to a nicety and always has a plan B. She carries the Eviscerator 'Million Voices' and is an expert markswoman. She serves in the Commandery Tertius and is therefore de facto leader. If Canonness Sarasvati has a flaw, it's an inability to delegate.
“Everything is all we can give, and all that He asks.”

Sister Palatine Desdemona, the nominal leader of Commandery Tertius is noted for her fiery oratory and disturbingly scarred visage. She claims that the Emperor has a special task for her and until she knows what that is, she can never die. Like all Palatines of the Third Commandery before her, she bares the Blessed sword of St. Ruth the Merciless. Her personal retinue sometimes carries St. Ruth's skull into battle in its reliquary.
“Stand with me and be fearless, for I cannot die.”

The Sisters Superior of the Commandery Tertius comprise the most experienced and most faithful warriors at the Order's disposal.

Seraphim Superior Regina has few friends – she's thought of as an insufferable little-miss-perfect because, well, she is. Whatever people may think of her personally, it's taken as fact in the Order that if Regina sets out to do something, it gets done, no exceptions. Her Eviscerator 'Edax Omnium' has accounted for almost as many enemy vehicles as the rest of the Commanndery combined. Some believe Regina to be Canonness Sarasvati's inevitable replacement, but Regina herself will not hear of it.
“Consider it done.”


Seraphim Superior Aliz is the natural foil for Regina, and possibly her only actual friend. Aliz has an easy charisma, an infectiously genuine love of the Emperor and a legendary berserker rage on the battlefield. When Aliz calls herself or one of her Sisters a 'daughter of the Emperor' one gets the impression she means it almost literally. Perhaps it's this that drives her to such apoplexy when fighting those who don't share her faith. Whatever it is, she's been known to leave the battlefield with armour as red as her robes. She favours a plasma pistol because it burns as hot as her hatred. She calls it 'Faith' and strokes it without noticing.
“The Emperor really does protect.”

Sister Superior Nephthys was an underhive pickpocket who made one good mistake - trying to steal from (then) Sister Sarasvati. Sarasvati caught her, offered her a choice. 'Face the Arbites or come with me'. Sarasvati sent her to the Convent and Nephthys has served the Emperor, and Sarasvati, ever since. She is fiercely loyal, but still knows a few underhand tricks. When the Third Commandery are at the Convent, the novitiates are not allowed to talk to Nephthys. Not after last time. She owns an archeotech winged power sword of uncertain providence but seems unwilling to use it, preferring an Eviscerator named 'Witchbane'.
“If something's worth fighting for, it's worth fighting dirty for.”

Sister Superior Tuesday dyes her hair coal black, she covers her face in white powder, her power sword, 'Darkheart', is black-bladed and coruscates with red lightning. She cultivates a disquieting, grim air around herself and, from time to time, makes dark cryptic references to her errantry, which she spent in the retinue of an unknown Inquisitor. She knows things that no-one else does and even the Inquisitors who sometimes visit the Order do not meet her eye. Amongst the novices and novitiates something of a personality cult has grown up around Tuesday and the rumours grow wilder as time goes on.
“Sometimes, child, when someone says 'you don't want to know', it's the truth.”

Sister Superior Nike is a spirited, impetuous woman. At 30, the youngest Sister Superior in the Order's history. She has a sardonic, quick-witted nature, a winning smile and the unshakable idea that she's a legend waiting to happen. She spent her errantry on feral worlds and the way she tells it, she already is a legend on those worlds. She's popular with the novices and novitiates but many of the more mature Sisters are exasperated by her wild stories and habit of lighting lho sticks with her plasma pistol. The only problem seems to be that she is everything she claims. With her Eviscerator 'Explicit Heresius' she once duelled and killed five rogue Astartes single-handed.
“Because I'm the best there's ever been!”

Sister Superior Justine & Sister Superior Juliette are identical twins. They've worked together their whole lives and their ability to co-ordinate is almost preternatural – indeed, they have both been subjected to testing to confirm that they are not witches. Both originally joined the Third Commandery as Dominion Immolator crew until Sister Desdemona decided they could be better employed. Ironically, the are most often deployed on far sides of the battlefield where their intuitive understanding can aid the coordination of the two wings. True to their Dominion roots, both carry Combi-Flamers.
“Nothing burns like a Heretic.”


Sister Superior Pandora is the most senior of the Order's Retributors. All of the Orders sisters have an institutional regard for the heavy stuff, but Pandora's regard for the Holy Bolter, Flamer and Melta are greater still. She has a pragmatic kind of realism – her faith in the Emperor is as strong as anyone's but she understands that a lot of the time a Heavy Bolter is quicker. She carries nothing but a standard Bolter, because it is the quintessential weapon of the Emperor's wrath. That and Canonness Sarasvati forbade her from carrying a Multimelta.
“Of course the Emperor loves me, he gave me this bolter.”
 

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cant wait to read more of this i dont really get to see a lot of the sisters in written works unles its supporting these ladies look like they can kick ass
 

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these ladies look like they can kick ass
Intensionally so. I envisage a very character-driven force - central is the idea that each sister is an individual who has spent many years on her own, or with a very few other sisters and has been moulded by her experiences.

The personalities I describe are partially born from the table top. Regina really is a little-miss-perfect - she has never once let me down, Nike really did face down five tac-marines and win, on her very first outing the day after I painted her (in reality, there were a couple of Sisters left in her squad, but they didn't contribute to the combat, so yeah...).

Oh, and the Tyranid thing is very real. For the first four months I played this game, I faced nids every week and did not win once...

My normal dislike for writing fiction set in someone else's universe notwithstanding, I am tempted to write some stories or vignettes describing the sisters' errantry. Seems like fun.

I would also like to set out more detail about Avaris, which I envisage as a cold, dry desert world. The nature and culture of Avaris will have far less impact on the Order than would the homeworld of a Marine chapter have on said Chapter, but still.


Incidentally, I am especially interested in what people think of the numbers I have chosen. 600 sisters - too many? Too few?
 

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yeah those 'nids are nasty individuals i don't normally play the table top i have so little time to devout to it what with work and things but when i have popped into the GW york and watched them play there is always some carnage with the nids going on.
600 seems fine to me, if the space marines can have 1000 why can't the sisters have that? seems fine to me but i am not the expert on sisters of battle.
look foawrd to reading what you do with them and because i thought this was well thought out rep on the way
 

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600 seems fine to me, if the space marines can have 1000 why can't the sisters have that? seems fine to me but i am not the expert on sisters of battle.
600 is smaller groups who are then split again into smaller ones on the battlefield.

Sororita organisation is:
Order: No upwards limit (Six main Orders, each have around 7000 Sisters)
Preceptory: Up to 1000 Sisters. (Normal size of Lesser Order. Some have more or less Sisters, unknown number of Lesser Orders)
Commandery: Up to 200 Sisters.
Mission: '... a number of squads ...'

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@Azezel

I like your back plot and history. Its all rather good.

I really should write my own order's history one day.
 

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This was great reading, and even after that I am still wanting more! + rep!
 

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Thank you all for the rep.

Kettu - I fully encourage you to realise a history for your Order, and to post it, there're not enough homebrew Orders (at least, s'far as I have seen).

Regarding numbers, I decided that the Order had a nominal size of six hundred. Recruitment and attrition make that fluctuate somewhat but the biggest difficulty in book-keeping must be the Second Commandery. If there are 200 or so sisters scattered across a quarter of a segmentum it's almost impossible to keep track - some of them are certainly dead - some are unable to send word back, one of them got lost in the warp and is now stuck 500 years in the past etc.

However, I do think that 600 might be a touch low... On the other hand, I've never serriously believed that a mere million Space Marines could accomplish anything in an Imperium of a million worlds. Hell, it took 1.3 million soldiers just to storm the beaches of Normandy - one small stretch of coast on one planet, and a Marine is not worth >1'000'000 human soldiers.

Anyway, I'm writing something about Avaris and a more detailed treatment of the Second Commanndery.
 

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Honestly? It sucks. Utter tripe. Lol, I joke. Seriously this is one of the best Sister related works I have seen, I love how they found gold flecks in the Tyranids; something I may have to steal for a fiction :grin: I don't see there being anything wrong with their numbers though, have some rep mate, I look forwards to seeing more from these dudes! Errr dudettes :laugh:
 

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The Convent of St. Ruth the Merciless can be seen from almost anywhere in Sri Avaris. The Convent's three red marble towers are firmly founded the the slopes of the extinct volcano that looms over Avaris' capital city. Behind and around the three towers the other Convent buildings rise in steps, while in front adamantium walls faced in relief-carved marble rise from the living rock.

The site was chosen solely for its defensible nature during the earliest days of the Order when the Tyranid menace almost overran the planet.

The muscular marble buildings in the surface are only part of the Convent however. Within the volcano great halls and warrens have been excavated and shafts sunk kilometres deep to provide geothermal heat and power. These warrens are much larger than the Order's size might suggest. At one time it was hoped that the whole population of Sri Avaris could take shelter beneath the Convent. In truth, the excavations were never that extensive and the Tyranids were eradicated before it became necessary to try – close though it was.

Centuries later the true extent of the catacombs is not fully known. Beyond the Order's libraries, armouries, garages, vaults and ossuaries are yet more caverns unexplored.

Each of the three great towers is equal in size and majesty. Made of red marble and capped with domed roofs of Orichalcum. Each story is surrounded by friezes depicting the life of Alicia Dominica. These three towers correspond to the three Commanderies of the Order – though that was not the case when they were built.

Only the central tower, that of the Commandery Secundus is unique, for on it's walls are engraved the names of those sisters who left on errantry and never returned. Within are the trophies, diaries and testimonials of those who did return. Deep within the catacombs are sealed vaults and secret libraries holding other, more dangerous prizes. The tomes of forbidden lore and the tainted artefacts confiscated from the unwary or taken from the charred hands of the evil.
 

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You sir have most definitely made 'The List', other than perhaps going into more detail regarding the Ministorum links the Order enjoys- do the cardinals/bishops inspect the Sisters' holdings? Is their a high ranking member of the clergy that outanks the Cannoness in the Chrch? etc- I can only say well done and command that you continue to do more :biggrin:
 

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You sir have most definitely made 'The List'
Well, that's about all a chap can really ask out of life...

I've not given a huge amount of thought to the Ministorum/Ecclesiarchy - which I really should, you're right.

It's never been explicitly stated, but I should imagine that in the Ecclesiarchy a Canonness ranks equal to, or just superior to a Dean - or Equal to/just inferior to a Bishop.

There is certainly at least one higher ranking Ecclesiarch on Avaris - however, the man-in-the-street might be forgiven for not being entirely clear on the matter.

Canonness Sarasvati is one of your omni-capable, micro-managing leaders. 'A sermon from St. Ruths' Takes up a few hours of airtime every holiday and she is forever firing off long, and genuinely insightful missives to clergy around the world.

The Order has a number of Priests (not to mention a number of Battle Sisters who are also ordained Priestesses). It also has a cadre of preachers and missionaries attached to the Third Commandery.

I should say that it is also subject to inspection by Ecclesiarchal (and Inquisitorial) officials to ensure adherance to the creed - and to make sure that stuff locked in the basement stays locked in the basement.

I shall give3 the matter some more thought and write more - not just about that, in fact.

I recently had a root through my bitz box and found enough parts to rectify a problem. If you look through my list of Veteran Sisters Superior you'll see no Celestian Superior. I've now built a model and she needs a biography.
 

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It's never been explicitly stated, but I should imagine that in the Ecclesiarchy a Canonness ranks equal to, or just superior to a Dean - or Equal to/just inferior to a Bishop.
From what I understand, the Sisters rank of Canoness is technically higher then Bishop but only relation to matters that concern the Sisterhood itself.
External matters of Ecclesiarchy interest would fall to the Bishop.
Though I can't imagine a Bishop attempting to pull rank on a Canoness for battlefield related reasons anyway.

Hell, the Ecclesiarch him/herself would probably allow lower ranked Sisters to handle battlefield interests.

All this, however, is just my understanding of it extrapolating from what little GW has said.
 

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I love this! Great story, and great inspiration! I'm a Sisters player too, and my Order of the Burning Tear have been waiting forever for a proper story like this, and now I just have to give it to them! Love all the small details you added, and how each sister has her own 'thing' going on. Great read! :)
 

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From what I understand, the Sisters rank of Canoness is technically higher then Bishop but only relation to matters that concern the Sisterhood itself.
External matters of Ecclesiarchy interest would fall to the Bishop.
Though I can't imagine a Bishop attempting to pull rank on a Canoness for battlefield related reasons anyway.

Hell, the Ecclesiarch him/herself would probably allow lower ranked Sisters to handle battlefield interests.

All this, however, is just my understanding of it extrapolating from what little GW has said.
My belief, based both on details from GW/BL sources and Catholicism is that a Dean would be master of a single Cathedral, whereas a Bishop is master of a, well, Bishopric, obviously - but A bishop would have some hundreds of underlings, up to a couple of thousand in a large bishopric.

Based purely on the number of people who directly take orders from that person, I'd put a Canonness and a Bishop as equal - you are however, quite right in saying that either would be wise to let the other do their own job. When the fighting starts a Canonness outranks pretty much anyone who is flammable - if only because getting in her way can be considdered Heresy and the Sisters have a Standing Inquisitorial duty to root out corruption within the church.

Nevertheless, the Imperium so loves beurocracy that one just knows that there are exact and exacting tables of 'who outranks-whom' - not just of the Ecclesiarchy, but for everything.

I love this! Great story, and great inspiration! I'm a Sisters player too, and my Order of the Burning Tear have been waiting forever for a proper story like this, and now I just have to give it to them! Love all the small details you added, and how each sister has her own 'thing' going on. Great read! :)
If you write it, I will read it, and with relish.


My current project is detailing the All Creation, the troopship attached to the Commandery Tertius.
 

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Jolly good show
 

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I love 40k ships - they are just so... Something. I love reading the Rogue Trader (RPG) book - even if it has some manifest flaws as an actual game.

As such, I knew that the Order of Glory Undimmed must have a ship, and that there's no such thing as too over-the-top.

This is it:

The Commandery Tertius is based aboard All Creation, the ship is considered to be part of the Convent of St. Ruth's, and in fact, looks the part. All Creation was wrested from the void, having been adrift some hundreds of years and taken significant damage before and during her sojourn. She was repaired with a great quantity of the same red marble from which much of St. Ruth's is built.

Loaned in perpetuity to the Order, All Creation nevertheless remains legally the property of the Ordo Hereticus, rather than Order of Glory Undimmed, or the Adeptus Ministorum. She is crewed by Hereticus Serfs , and divided such that the greater part of the ship is almost entirely indistinguishable to the the Convent, and inaccessible to the Hereticus crew. The All Creation permits the rapid transport and deployment of the Third Commandery in response to information discovered by the Second

The means to construct Galaxy class ships is long lost and given that marble requires far more mass to be structurally sound than the original designers planned, the ship is less spacious than others of her type. That's not to say she's cramped at all. Her interiors, particularly in that part of the ship given over to the Sisterhood, are almost exclusively wide, high-ceilinged rooms and grand passageways. Nevertheless, so much of her volume is taken up with marble, or large, airy spaces that a troopship which could once carry tens of thousands of passengers now supports barely a thousand.

Though in far, far greater opulence than any vessel designated 'troopship' might ever have possessed before... The Order's domain, a little over two-thirds of the ship by volume is as one may expect. The order strives to embody the glorious, the grand, the overwhelming in majesty and artifice, and this place is the domain of it's most honoured sisters. It is a place where every skill and desire of artist and artificer has been lavishly indulged.

Where even such utilitarian spaces as garages are grand halls where walls a hectare in size are carved in minute detail with images of saints and primarchs. The great hangars, mighty spaces with marble floors chewed and marked by the caterpillar treads of the Order's Rhinos hold Valkyrie Sky Talons and dropships which ferry the Sisters to battle.

Every corridor is wide enough to accommodate a dreadnought and the floors are tiled with perfectly tessellated Aquilae or written with the complete text of holy books in letters too small to read while standing. Great windows of coloured crystal look out to space, each one a depiction of a saint or martyr. Grandest of all is the chapel with an alter of gold and polished wood set before a marble statue of the Emperor himself so grand that a tall man could scarecely peer over the top of his gold-leafed boot.

At the other end of the chapel is a grand pipe organ. A mighty, baroque pile of wood and metal and bone and ivory. So vast is it that it's pipes twist through every part of the ship and a dozen children are required to move the hidden treadmill which pumps the air. Nowhere on the ship is its music not heard.

The Hereticus crew – most third or fourth generation are of course far far more numerous than the Sisters and their staff. An exact census has not existed for a century or more but is thought to be around fifteen thousand. A third of those toil night and day shovelling coal into the great furnaces of the enginarium. Most of the stokers think their effort powers the ship, but in fact they merely keep the engines warm. The insulation which should keep the ship's plasma drives at optimum temperature can no-longer be fabricated...

No member of the crew may set foot within the Order's domain, and the Sisters rarely venture without. Only Sarasvati, or her deputies, and only then when t comes time to supply the command staff with new orders, or more rarely, when it comes time to send some luckless novice as a missionary to the crew of her Order's own ship. It must be done.
 

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I believe that Valkyries have anti-gravity engines, which, by the somewhat nebulous definition of what anti-gravity is, mean that weight is irrelevant, only mass matters. They could haul around a Titan provided you don't need too much delta-V.

The Sky Talon is obviously a CH-64 IN SPAAAACE! and the Imperial Navy are hardly likely to bother with a heavy-lift vehicle that can't lift anything heavier than a dune buggy.

More prosaically, that's the only non-thunderhawk vehicle I'm familiar with capable of ferrying vehicles (of any kind) from orbit. It was that or push 'em out the airlock with a cheery 'The Emperor protects'.

EDIT - here's the CH-54 (Military version of the CH-64) hauling around some sort of AFV. Picture that, but in space and covered in skulls.
 
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