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Hi every one
A few weeks ago I posted with regards to weather any one would be interested in a gaming pub in London, well I'm pleased to announce that there will soon be a kickstarter going live in approximately 4 weeks time, this will be a multi levelled pub, catering for every one, the ground floor will be a standard pub for any one and every one hosting live music and other events during the week, the first floor will be the main gaming / hobby area with an artist studio for some of the pro painters were getting lined up to come along and do some great events, it will also be home to our in house gaming club, with any were between 5 to 10 8 x 4 gaming tables available to use. It will also have it's own bar! The 2nd floor will be an extra gaming space/ shop area for other kickstarters who wish to have a place to set up shop for short periods of time to show of and sell there models, gaming systems or even paints and gaming equipment.
This has been a long time coming and a great deal of thought and research has gone into this. Please keep your eye out for more details, it will be located in north to central London and will be called "The Orc's Head", please feel free to ask any questions and we will also be hosting an evening at the first choice site in the next few weeks for a meet and great as it were were you can come along and see potentially were and what we will be doing. Spread to the word that this is coming as we need every ones help to get this out to the hobby community. This is a gaming / hobby pub designed by hobbyists for hobbyists!!!!:eek:k:
 

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Good stuff here. Hope it turns out good for you and for the hobbists :)
 

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congrats mate, when i turn 18 ill come down for a drink and a game.
Wait, you are not even 18? And i've exposed you to my slaaneshi painting and speech?? :shok:
The cops will never have me alive!!!!!!
 

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'Have you'? Into necrophilia are we?
wait, what?
btw i can be ok with necrophilia..if she is still hot (pun intended)
 

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congrats mate, when i turn 18 ill come down for a drink and a game.
Go now, underage drinking is big and clever, and the only way to garner respect from your peers!

On topic, hope all goes well with the pub, and hope you will do beer battered onion rings
 

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I kinda feel this is not the thing for a kickstarter, I mean kickstarters do well for specialist products and services that can be supplied remotely. For this surely the business needs to work without crowdfunding, as it will deliver a physical service. I guess you can charge people 20 quid for a 5 quid t shirt to generate so seed capital but the rewards would surely mostly relate to those close enough to use the place anyway.
 

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There are a lot of rewards for backers both as club members an if your a company. No I won't be charging £20 for a t-shirt ever. The hole point of having a gaming/hobby pub in london is to offer every one a themed bar, an amazing gaming club with some of the best gaming tables out there, show cad other kickstarters, offer every one a place to do hobby, have lessons from pro painters and have a great time doing it all :) some of the rewards include painted armies, or custom made 8 x 4 gaming tables, naming the hobby club. As for pricing were you will pay £5 per week membership then have to pay £3 per game we will be a flat £5 per week! Or £20 per month. There are a few pro painters and a company that are helping us out and will start advertising there involvement with this project as well. All I'm asking is for every one to spread the word that its coming, have a good look and if you like what you see back us. In 2 weeks time ill be organising a meet and great for any one who wants to see what and were this will all happen. You can ask all the questions you need to and see the potential location for the pub
Please pass the info round :)
 

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Just an update guys, army painter are now an official spencer for the orcs head pub, have a look at there Facebook page and there news letter!
 

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I hate to be that guy, but mostly this is an FYI for future communications, make sure the spelling/grammar makes sense.

Kickstarter is a gamble, always, because there is no guarantee of return on investment at all. You can take the money and blow it on hookers and Whisky and there is nothing backers can do. You need to engender trust, and when you use 'there' not 'their' (repeatedly), your when you meant you're, great instead of greet and spencer instead of sponsor, it is going to put people off.

My comment on £20 quid t-shirts was not a criticism. In the case of a miniature kickstarter, people are pre-buying a product so the give and take is clear. As you are offering what amounts to a servcie I was trying to think what people can get for essentially donating you some startup capital. A £20 t shirt might cost you only a fiver but the backer gets a cool unique design, and you get £15 quid to buy bar pumps, glasses, light bulbs etc.

The rewards you mention sound sort of like raffle prizes, so in essence you are taking donations for a chance of some big, cool item or opportunity, but the core thing the money is for is to get the pub going. That is cool, and if it was a kickstart targeting local North Londoners it makes sense, as they can all sue the club. Even if the rewards are prepaid membership to the club it makes sense. However, the power of kickstarter is that you reach people beyond your locale. You get grannies in Gothenburg and teenagers in Torquay. This can be for Kickstarter-fudned products or services. However the products do best when you can ship them at least countrywide, and the services can be used by everyone.

Look at the TableTop IndieGogo (Wil Wheaton's pretty cool board game TV show). The basic exchange was if you donated then the new series got made for everyone to watch. Then the upper levels were bonus items to sweeten the deal.

Yes a painted army or game board might be cool, but the price needs to be not more than it would cost to buy, and you need to get it for nothing so that the revenue it generates provides you some capital. And can you generate enough to be worthwhile based on what amounts to selling things you have made or been donated?

To do best out of KS, think of reward levels that provide something cool, something unique, that you make enough profit on that you have cash in hand to start the pub.

This may all sound negative but if I wanted to be negative I'd have just posted an insult and moved on. I like your idea, I'd like it to succeed but I think you need to think carefully as you move forward.
 

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I hate to be that guy, but mostly this is an FYI for future communications, make sure the spelling/grammar makes sense.

Kickstarter is a gamble, always, because there is no guarantee of return on investment at all. You can take the money and blow it on hookers and Whisky and there is nothing backers can do. You need to engender trust, and when you use 'there' not 'their' (repeatedly), your when you meant you're, great instead of greet and spencer instead of sponsor, it is going to put people off.

My comment on £20 quid t-shirts was not a criticism. In the case of a miniature kickstarter, people are pre-buying a product so the give and take is clear. As you are offering what amounts to a servcie I was trying to think what people can get for essentially donating you some startup capital. A £20 t shirt might cost you only a fiver but the backer gets a cool unique design, and you get £15 quid to buy bar pumps, glasses, light bulbs etc.

The rewards you mention sound sort of like raffle prizes, so in essence you are taking donations for a chance of some big, cool item or opportunity, but the core thing the money is for is to get the pub going. That is cool, and if it was a kickstart targeting local North Londoners it makes sense, as they can all sue the club. Even if the rewards are prepaid membership to the club it makes sense. However, the power of kickstarter is that you reach people beyond your locale. You get grannies in Gothenburg and teenagers in Torquay. This can be for Kickstarter-fudned products or services. However the products do best when you can ship them at least countrywide, and the services can be used by everyone.

Look at the TableTop IndieGogo (Wil Wheaton's pretty cool board game TV show). The basic exchange was if you donated then the new series got made for everyone to watch. Then the upper levels were bonus items to sweeten the deal.

Yes a painted army or game board might be cool, but the price needs to be not more than it would cost to buy, and you need to get it for nothing so that the revenue it generates provides you some capital. And can you generate enough to be worthwhile based on what amounts to selling things you have made or been donated?

To do best out of KS, think of reward levels that provide something cool, something unique, that you make enough profit on that you have cash in hand to start the pub.

This may all sound negative but if I wanted to be negative I'd have just posted an insult and moved on. I like your idea, I'd like it to succeed but I think you need to think carefully as you move forward.

Hi lazy g, first of no insult was or has been taken at all! I need peoples honest opinion on this so I can make adjustments were needed! So thanks for your comments, however as for the spelling and grammar again my apologies, being dislexic and being in a hurry while on the move never helps with my responses and after reading back through what I posted before hand I can see why :shok:
There are a number of different rewards for any backer, and none of them are pot luck, there are limited rewards offering differing different things all of which have been costed so we don't fall flat on our face before we even start, and trust me I've spoken to a number of people regarding the kickstarter and am making sure I have the backing and support of reputable company's and some former successful kickstarters to help ease peoples worries concerning kickstarter money disappearing.
I've spent a great deal of time and effort in developing the idea and have no intention of disappointing people should this happen, yes it's a risk going through kickstarter but one I feel should pay of. This is not just a pub being set up for just north London gamers, it's a place that has been designed for every gamer! No matter were your from, if your in town and fancy a pint and a game, if your on holiday in London and want to go some were to meet other gamers and hobbyists it's for every one!
I hope this helps a little and again once the kickstarter is up online have a look through and decide for your self. :)
 
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