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I can't decide whether to risk fielding one of these guys at an upcoming tournament at our club.

It can't be denied that they have a brutal collection of psychic powers and wield a weapon capable of turning the most robust enemy into mush. Psychic hoods are also a fantastic device to stop Farseers etc. Throw a familiar into the mix and you have a virtual one man army.

For one, they don't have an invulnerable save. A Combat Shield can fix that, but its 10 more points in an already expensive model.

They're the most expensive unaugmented HQ choice. The weakest Librarian costs the same as the best Chaplain, who comes pre equipped with an invulnerable save.

Librarians are not team players: Chaplain squad members become fearless and get to reroll misses on the charge. Commanders provide ALL marines with their Leadership. Librarians only have their solo skills. Nothing they bring to the battle aids their comrades.

I don't think i'd ever get as much benefit from a Librarian as I can from a Chaplain for example. I simply love the idea of a Librarian leading at the fore of my army, slaying tyrants, carnifexes and daemons.

What are your thoughts on the subject? Do you ever field a Librarian with a positive VP return? ie he kills more than his points cost. Is there some method to using them that i've over looked?
 

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i can only tell from the librarian my friend uses in his blood angels army, and he's a real killer with that furious charge and an assault squad to bring in some ablative shielding. he uses the big one with an iron halo, a jump pack the artificer armour, and because he used mephiston as his basic model a plasma pistol. as additional power he chose the veil of time. and he is a real killer the only reason he runs him with that assault squad is to add some bodies to eat the incoming fire. i barely saw this guy cutting in fewer points than he and his assault marines costed. just ask yourself if your commander really need the halo, or if you really need a commander at all...
 

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Vortex of doom can take big chunks outta sqauds. Easily.

Fear of The Darkness is VERY useful when playing low Ld. races like Guard, Tau and DE.

Storm of the Emperor's Wrath can be useful too.
 

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The fact that it can be an I6 Space Marine without furious charge (thanks to a Familiar) is reason enough to have it, really. Then you've got the psychic hood, which is a great little tool, and the force weapon for putting down the big guys in the other army... I'd take one most of the time if I didn't try to stick to a codex Battle Company organization which leaves Librarians out.
 

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Libarians that i normally use has terminator armour with fear of the darkness and fury of the ancinets (no-line of sight d3 s5 hits per unit which is an awsome power)
 

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My librarians usually look like:
Force Weapon, Psychic Hood, Plasma Pistol, Artificer Armor, Frag Grenades, Melta Bombs, Jump Pack, Terminator Honors, Iron Halo, Storm of the Emperor's Wrath, Veil of Time

Of course he's also 231 points.
 

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That's just dirty..... :twisted:
 

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I have the newer Termie Chaplain that I like to get in to the fight too(it's such an awesome fig), so sometimes I'll go with just one Librarian...but I've always got at least one, usually the force commander.

Then again, I'm likely the worst when it comes to good advice in effectiveness on the table. My batting average isn't all that hot.
 

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Jezlad said:
Never considered two Librarians supporting each other. Thats a sick combo!
In point terms, maybe. You'd have to be mentally diseased to let 400 points of Librarians into anything short of a 2500 point game.
 

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At 1500pts I always field this guy:

Epistolary
Bike
Fury Of The Ancients
Bolt Pistol
Frags
150pts

Nice and cheap way of getting a force weapon and pychic hood on to the table and with fury to pick on multiple Indrect targets like Tau suits, Basilisks, speeders, vehilce side armour etc he always makes his point back.
Tactics wise I'll usually deploy him on my back lines with my preds and tac squads enabling him to stay protected (closest model) and snipe from afar. Also when needed If anything gets past my DC and hits my back lines he can always chip In with his 5 ST5 force attacks! :twisted:
Suppose If you want to 'bling out' on a Librarian you could always go with the following set-up:

Epistolary
Bike
Veil Of Time / Fear Of The Darkness
Iron Halo
Artificer Armour
Terminator Honours
Bolt Pistol
Frags
220pts?
Can always turbo along with that 2+* Inv save to get him Into position then hit out with 6 attacks re-rolling EVERYTHING! or Just fear the hell out of an army from behind cover! :shock:
 

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And then experience the endless joys of having him hit by a meltagun before he can assault, leaving the opponent 210 points up on his investment.
 

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I adore libraians they are great give one might of heroes and you've got your self a combat monster. I personlay use one all the time atm hes kiled 5!!!!!!carnifexs single handedly
 
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