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Hey, this looks alright! I love the Ork v Guard fluff, and most of the books that concern those two factions are great. Hopefully this will give us a bit more to go with as well!
 

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Sorry to be THAT GUY but...

781.M31 = Abaddon's 1st Black Crusade. On Uralan, the Despoiler secures the daemon weapon Drach'nyen. The First Battle of Cadia.

544.M32 = An Ork Warboss known only as the Beast forms an enormous army of Orks that rampages across the Imperium. He is eventually stopped at great cost to the Adeptus Astartes.

546.M32 = The Beheading: Grand Master of the Officio Assassinorum Drakan Vangorich has the High Lords of Terra murdered. The rogue Master of Assassins is tracked down and slain by a Space Marine strikeforce drawn from the Imperial Fists, Halo Brethren and Sable Swords. Only a single Space Marine survives the campaign.

552.M32 = The space hulk Da Iron Worm carries marauding orks across the Uhulis Sector. They destroy Battlegroup Azezel, the Fortress Worlds Armstrong and Velgagrad, and the Forge World Temaxia, leaving the Ul-Seraph Cluster defenceless. A warp storm blasts Da Iron Worm off course and into the Empyrean. Scout vessels determine that its course took it into the Dark Marches and is never heard from again.

597.M32 = 2nd Black Crusade, a failed attack on the defences of Cadia.

So there is 763 years between the 1st Black Crusade and The Beast. But lots of interesting stuff going on around the same time as The Beast!
 

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It might actually be enough. Recall in The Talon of Horus when Khayon notes that it did not take very long for the IoM to declare that the Traitor Legions were dead and enter into a "Golden Age". He noted that they became complacent and arrogant in that time, and it was less than 763 years if I recall correctly.

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Right...i don't think 763 years is enough for the IoM to lull into complacence
Hmmm well if you take 763 years away from 2015 you get to 1252AD. I would say the modern world is pretty complacent about what happened during the medieval era? That was roughly around the time Europe was under the threat from Genghis Khan and the Mongols who were considered to be sent from hell. Not sure modern Europe is that worried about Mongolia these days!!!
 

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Hmmm well if you take 763 years away from 2015 you get to 1252AD. I would say the modern world is pretty complacent about what happened during the medieval era? That was roughly around the time Europe was under the threat from Genghis Khan and the Mongols who were considered to be sent from hell. Not sure modern Europe is that worried about Mongolia these days!!!
The Imperium and the real-life modern world don't operate on the same level of time IMO (e.g. the Great Crusade lasted for 200+ years and likely would have continued for another century or so...WW2 lasted for roughly 5). After the Heresy, the Imperium lives on for another 10,000 years (a ridiculous span of time by "real history" standards) and is likely to continue for a good while longer)

Furthermore, High Lords and lesser Imperial leaders generally take rejuvenat treatment to prolong youth and lifespan for a few extra centuries (Imperial leaders can live almost as long as Astartes). Therefore, I find it odd that after only 7 centuries, the Imperium has lapsed into complacency again after having been punished by the 1st Black Crusade
 

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The Imperium and the real-life modern world don't operate on the same level of time IMO (e.g. the Great Crusade lasted for 200+ years and likely would have continued for another century or so...WW2 lasted for roughly 5). After the Heresy, the Imperium lives on for another 10,000 years (a ridiculous span of time by "real history" standards) and is likely to continue for a good while longer)

Furthermore, High Lords and lesser Imperial leaders generally take rejuvenat treatment to prolong youth and lifespan for a few extra centuries (Imperial leaders can live almost as long as Astartes). Therefore, I find it odd that after only 7 centuries, the Imperium has lapsed into complacency again after having been punished by the 1st Black Crusade
Those are good points I had not really considered. If you add in warp travel time dilation also then the whole thing gets even more screwy. Not disagreeing with you but just for fun and to continue the debate...

Even if you change this by a factor or 3 (to use real history vs IoM history taking account of your points above) then you still end up around 1761 AD. So not far off the American Revolution. Not sure the ramifications of that event are really being felt in the 21st century or particularly bother the Brits?

In terms of the "history" of the 40k universe and IoM then it would make more sense if the 1st Black Crusade came after The Beast... Then the IOM would have had a millennia or so to get complacent. Clearly not the case though in the fluff.
 

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I've pre-ordered the first 5 eBooks for this.

The thing I like the most is that there's a definite release date and its planned over a year.

If they had done that with the HH even if it was over 3-5 years I feel everyone would have been much more enthusiastic about it.
 

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Is the "Beast" in this series meant to be a worse or lesser Ork compared to the one that Horus and The Emperor fought in The Wolf of Ash and Fire?
 
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