I agree the Alpha Legion probably brain washed a few people and used them in a ingenius Propoganda campaign against the Imperium. I also agree they have technology they stole from their fellow Legions; how else can you explain some of the advanced weapons the forces of Choas possess in the current Millenia of the Imperium.You are certainly fast to take it for gospel and absolute truth what is presented about the alpha legion, a legion known for half truths, lies and misdirection. I see it as a clear case of propanganda to make them appear like the invincible hydra they aspire to be, that never can be defeated
Not everything pumped out by BL/GW/FW about the AL is meant to be viewed with the 'they're all lies. inquisitor kravin, edward snowden, did 9/11 happen??? etc.' bit.
The purpose of these books is to reveal each of the legions in depth. Everything listed in my previous post was written by an outside source and based on facts, and theories. The same with the descriptions of the other legions albeit with less information and a lot more theories.
It's written as a journal/eye-witness account. It probably hasn't been seen by more than a handful of people.No, but taking the Isstvan trilogy in context, it is written as an Imperial document which is written after the Horus Heresy. Throughout all of the book, the language suggests this. So there is a lot of merit to the claim that "You can't believe everything you read" about the Alpha Legion. Given that the fluff bit is written as an imperial historical document, it is entirely believable that some of it is lies put these with the purpose of inflating the image of the Alpha Legion and what it is capable if to scare the Imperials.
All that being said, if we believe most of what is in Extermination, the Alpha Legion do come across as one of, if not the most, powerful legion.
Then again, if we knew everything about the Alpha Legion, then perhaps they would lose their mystique and become another bland Legion who were a little bit sneaky. Perhaps we need to be kept guessing about the power and scope of the Alpha Legion to sustain the mystery that surrounds them?
Perhaps we need to be kept guessing about the power and scope of the Alpha Legion to sustain the mystery that surrounds them?
With all due respect Phoebus your list is compelled of mostly Traitor Legions that would eventually go turncoat. We could easily saw that the Alpha Legion may have been the best of the best but it really comes down to a matter of perspective. If I said the Dark Angels have a inflated reputation based on the fact of their Fraternity/Discretion then we could probably make the conclusion that historical facts about them are just as corrupted and flawed as the Alpha Legion.My short list for legions
That may be more specifically the case post-Heresy. After all, Extermination notes that one of the contradictions of the Alpha Legion is their simultaneous ability to completely devolve authority and decentralise command whilst also all working in absolute unity (hence them being referred to as The Unbroken Chain).No chain of command, everyone does their own thing, their own schemes. The alpha legion is just a legion in the barest sense of the word, a loose collected grouping of warbands with their own agenda.
Yep, I would agree with you there P.In some ways, their strengths are their weakness. What made them so effective as a legion - their insular nature, their covert tactics, etc. - has also led to them not being trusted by many of their brothers, no?
Also, to play Devi's Advocate against my earlier points, take some of the Alpha Legion's strengths with a grain of salt. Much like the Night Lords' terror tactics don't really have an effect against the Legiones Astartes, it's safe to assume that some of the covert stuff Alpharius' sons will try won't have an effect against beings with eidetic memories and highly enhanced minds. Furthermore, no amount of built-in redundancy will help you if you're getting squashed on the battlefield. That is, I don't care if Cell Gamma is ready to step in for every other Cell on Planet X in the event of their destruction when the (e.g.) Dark Angels have control of the orbit and are bombarding everything to oblivion.