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What if Terra is discovered to be a necron tomb world?
what do you think will happen and who will win?
I dont think there is a strong Space marine presence on terra since the Horus Heresy (maybe im mistaken), so I think that if the necrons react fast they can sweep and devour all of terra, and then what will happen to rest of humanity?
Or does the fact the emperor resides there (although his partially dead) makes this planet indistructuble and undefeatable?
Would like to hear your openions on this :)

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based on what was written by other this is the general thinking about the idea:

1. If the Void Dragon is indeed on Mars, the imperium is doomed because of a failiure of most of thier technology and terra will be crushed (only chaos can fight with bare hands ).

2. If the Void Dragon is not on Mars, then the imperium will suffer terribly by the hands of the necrons both civilians and troops, but in the end the necron will lose.

3. The necron wont stand a chance because Mars is full of reinsforcements, Titans, Space marines, Tanks...

Now to make the debate more interesting lets take a new possibility:


take possibility 2, now if the imperium is now weakend what will happen if the Chaos Space Marines decide to launch an all out assulet right from the depths of the eye of terror, targeting Terra as the main objective.



P.S - This IS heresy!!! :p
 

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I dont think there is a strong Space marine presence on terra since the Horus Heresy (maybe im mistaken), so I think that if the necrons react fast they can sweep and devour all of terra, and then what will happen to rest of humanity?
The Adeptus Custodes say :scratchhead:

In any case, reinforcements wouldn't be far away, and neither would supplies, given the proximity to Mars. I'm sure a few Titans or somesuch earmarked for other Battlefleets could easily be sent to Terra if things went awry.
 

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It would be a massacre but on both sides. The Imperium would lose lots of civilians but the guardians of Terra are the finest in the entire Imperium. The Necrons would be slaughtered.

And since Mars isn't far off they would have easy access to supplies and reinforcements.
 

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First of all, the necrons would probably be somewhat defective in nature, given that the massive levels of activity on Terra haven't awoken them. That is yet another plus for the humans.

The only hope the necrons would have is if they could awaken the Void Dragon. (Which we aren't even sure is on Mars)
 

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ye I forgot to mention the defective part, I tougth about it to but maybe its just the awakning mechanism which is broken\defective so they are still functional.
 

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Earth is the oldest and the most famous world in Imperium. IMO it's impossible to be a Tomb World, because someone would notice that thousands of years ago. No fuckin' way for Necrons to be hidden there.
 

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Thats why I said WHAT IF :p
it dosent have to be in the same reality, lets say its an alternate reality or another dimension.
 

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After just finishing Dark Creed I would have to say the necrons- in that they take on titans, CSM, SM and IG and a mother hubbard of a space fort and slaughter everything that gets in their way : the space fort has been fighting a CSM fleet for weeks, even after taking multiple nukes at zero range as the opening action... and 1 necron ship destroys it almost instantly.

So, from fluff/novels I would say that the necrons would walk over pretty much any defence the imperium could mount... but if we go even vaguely on how good they are in game, then they are in some serious trouble.
 

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After just finishing Dark Creed I would have to say the necrons- in that they take on titans, CSM, SM and IG and a mother hubbard of a space fort and slaughter everything that gets in their way : the space fort has been fighting a CSM fleet for weeks, even after taking multiple nukes at zero range as the opening action... and 1 necron ship destroys it almost instantly.

So, from fluff/novels I would say that the necrons would walk over pretty much any defence the imperium could mount... but if we go even vaguely on how good they are in game, then they are in some serious trouble.
The Funny thing is the Necrons had a few things going for them.

1) The IG were in ruin.

2) SMs were non existant almost.

3) The Necrons beat back the CSMs in the initial attack by hitting them with everything the Necs had AND by cutting the WBs from the Warp.

Almost everything the WBs have is Warp Powered. The Ships, Engines, Daemon Allies, Possessed, and Psychic Powers were cut off when the Necs took back the Nexus. Whats funny is that in the end the Necrons Lord and best of the best was beaten by 100 Termies and 1 piss off Dread. Ontop of that the Necs fled as soon as the Warp poured back and the SMs reinforcements arrived.

Just saying.
 

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The Adeptus Custodes are the supreme soldiers of the galaxy - superior to even the Space Marines and there are 10'000 of them on Terra.

There are Titans permenantly stationed on Terra - two Warhounds stand outside the Throne Room at all times - more Titans of all classes stomp around looking fierce.

There are 10'000 or more Sisters of Battle on Terra at any given time in the Convent Prioris.

The Battlefleet Solar has many warships permenantly on-station at Luna.

The Grey Knights can almost instantly deploy several hundred battle brothers to Terra from titan.

Mars can deploy several Titan Legions and tens of thousands of Scittarii almost as quickly.

The Necrons would be in for a (literal) world of hurt.
 

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Well think about it, in A Thousand Sons, it tells that the Emperor found the Golden Throne from the ruins a an incredibly ancient civilisation in the deserts. Perhaps it was a necron artifect seeing as though they used the warp didn't they, or atleast their gods did allot.
 

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no idea but if terra was/is a tomb world...then i'll be leaving adn will the last one to leave please turn off the light....colchis anyone??? Oh no wait, thats gone.....damn...
 

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One sentence: pre 5th ed Gauss Weapons.......


fluff says Imperium Armor has NO CHANCE!


Anyone want some emperor jerky?
 

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The Adeptus Custodes are the supreme soldiers of the galaxy - superior to even the Space Marines and there are 10'000 of them on Terra.

There are Titans permenantly stationed on Terra - two Warhounds stand outside the Throne Room at all times - more Titans of all classes stomp around looking fierce.

There are 10'000 or more Sisters of Battle on Terra at any given time in the Convent Prioris.

The Battlefleet Solar has many warships permenantly on-station at Luna.

The Grey Knights can almost instantly deploy several hundred battle brothers to Terra from titan.

Mars can deploy several Titan Legions and tens of thousands of Scittarii almost as quickly.

The Necrons would be in for a (literal) world of hurt.
Don't forget the Imperial Fists are the protectors of Terra technically. I'm pretty sure they keep a big garrisoned unit there.
 

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Just a random question- have the necrons ever been in the fluff? Other then by orks..?
In the fluff gauss is basically AP2- armour only helps if it means the hit doesnt hit the fleshy bits and SMs only survive if the shot doesnt hit a vital bit of them (and I havent heard of anything even damaging a monolith yet, let alone a ship).
Of course the actions of the necrons are almost impossible to understand... so if Terra was a tomb world there is nothing to say that the necrons would actually attack it- above all they are a patient race, who would be quite happy to wait until the strength of the imperium started to fail before attacking and cleansing the world of humanity.
 

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Check the rulebook-the assault on Damnos says that the final city battle initially goes against the necs thanks to a melta strike from a ship. That might hurt a monolith.
 

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The Funny thing is the Necrons had a few things going for them.

1) The IG were in ruin.

2) SMs were non existant almost.

3) The Necrons beat back the CSMs in the initial attack by hitting them with everything the Necs had AND by cutting the WBs from the Warp.

Almost everything the WBs have is Warp Powered. The Ships, Engines, Daemon Allies, Possessed, and Psychic Powers were cut off when the Necs took back the Nexus. Whats funny is that in the end the Necrons Lord and best of the best was beaten by 100 Termies and 1 piss off Dread. Ontop of that the Necs fled as soon as the Warp poured back and the SMs reinforcements arrived.

Just saying.
They also had something else going for them.........the Necrons winning was what the author wanted. :eek:k:



The Adeptus Custodes are the supreme soldiers of the galaxy - superior to even the Space Marines and there are 10'000 of them on Terra.

There are Titans permenantly stationed on Terra - two Warhounds stand outside the Throne Room at all times - more Titans of all classes stomp around looking fierce.

There are 10'000 or more Sisters of Battle on Terra at any given time in the Convent Prioris.

The Battlefleet Solar has many warships permenantly on-station at Luna.

The Grey Knights can almost instantly deploy several hundred battle brothers to Terra from titan.

Mars can deploy several Titan Legions and tens of thousands of Scittarii almost as quickly.

The Necrons would be in for a (literal) world of hurt.
^ Pretty much this.

I will say to the OP though, the idea of Terra under siege would be a fun scenario to play out.

But out of all the sentient races in the W40K universe, is there anyone more paranoid, convinced of their 'manifest destiny', or ruled with a disciplined iron fist like the Imperium? If any race would have their homeworld braced against aggression, it would be Man.

So as fun as it would be to read about an attack on Terra, it would be the least probable.

Now if the T'au discovered some mecha-zombies undernear their homeworld....:good:
 

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Firstly, this cannot be, the necs would have awakened by now.

But to humor the "what if?" argument...

Necrons have always had the advantage in every piece of fluff I`ve read of them, even when outnumbered.

But we`re talking about Holy Terra itself here...

In a straight fight, given the full resources of a tomb world against I`m assuming legions of military forces, marines guard titans and the custodes, it would be close.

I`m obviously biased, but I have to assume a necron victory, if only because they have the tech to drain the sun and end the solar system should things get desperate...
 

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Well think about it, in A Thousand Sons, it tells that the Emperor found the Golden Throne from the ruins a an incredibly ancient civilisation in the deserts. Perhaps it was a necron artifect seeing as though they used the warp didn't they, or atleast their gods did allot.
I was under the impression that it was heavily implied that it was a webway portal.


As for necrons on Terra... I see it as highly unlikely, because terra has been stripmined far worse than any other planet you could think off. The seas have literally evaporated and been drained dry because of over-population. If we haven't found them yet, they won't be found ;)
 
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