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Good evening Heresy, my first post and I come to you in need! I'm not very experienced in list building and got a friendly tourny coming up and don't want to embarrass myself!

Which is going to give me more playability in an all comers list?

Thank you

List A

+++ Marham alt (1850pts) +++

++ Space Marines: Codex (2015) (Combined Arms Detachment) ++

+ (No Category) +

Chapter Tactics * [Iron Hands]

ShowFWmodels * [2. Elites]

+HQ+

Librarian [Mastery Level 2]
Terminator Armour [Auspex, Force Sword, Storm Bolter]

+ Elites +

Contemptor Mortis Dreadnought [2x Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon, Cyclone Missile Launcher, Extra Armor]

Contemptor Mortis Dreadnought [2x Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon, Extra Armor]

Sternguard Veteran Squad
Drop Pod [Deathwind Launcher]
Veteran [Combi-flamer]
Veteran [Combi-flamer]
Veteran [Combi-melta]
Veteran [Combi-melta]
Veteran Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Combi-melta]

+ Troops +

Tactical Squad [Flamer, Heavy Bolter, 9x Space Marines]
Drop Pod [Storm Bolter]
Space Marine Sergeant [Melta Bombs, Plasma Pistol, Power Sword]

Tactical Squad [Meltagun, Multi-melta, 9x Space Marines]
Drop Pod [Storm Bolter]
Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Melta Bombs]

+ Heavy Support +

Thunderfire Cannons [Thunderfire Cannon]

Thunderfire Cannons [Thunderfire Cannon]

++ Space Marines: Codex (2015) (Formation Detachment) ++

+ (No Category) +

Chapter Tactics * [Iron Hands]

+ Formation +

Storm Wing
Fire Raptor
Stormtalon Gunship [Skyhammer Missle)

List B

+++ Marham scout (1850pts) +++

++ Space Marines: Codex (2015) (Combined Arms Detachment) ++

+ (No Category) +

Chapter Tactics * [Iron Hands]

ShowFWmodels * [2. Elites, 4. Heavy Support]

+HQ+

Librarian [Mastery Level 2]
Terminator Armour [Auspex, Force Sword, Storm Bolter]

+ Elites +

Contemptor Mortis Dreadnought [2x Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon, Cyclone Missile Launcher, Extra Armor]

Contemptor Mortis Dreadnought [2x Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon, Extra Armor]

Sternguard Veteran Squad
Drop Pod [Deathwind Launcher]
Veteran [Combi-flamer]
Veteran [Combi-flamer]
Veteran [Combi-melta]
Veteran [Combi-melta]
Veteran Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Combi-melta]

+ Troops +

Scout Squad [Camo Cloaks, Missile Launcher (Frag & Krak), 5x Scouts, 4x Sniper Rifle]
Scout Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Sniper Rifle]

Tactical Squad [Flamer, Heavy Bolter, 9x Space Marines]
Drop Pod [Storm Bolter]
Space Marine Sergeant [Melta Bombs, Plasma Pistol, Power Sword]

Tactical Squad [Meltagun, Multi-melta, 9x Space Marines]
Drop Pod [Storm Bolter]
Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Melta Bombs]

+ Fast Attack +

Stormtalon Gunship [Skyhammer Missle Launcher]

+ Heavy Support +

Fire Raptor Gunship
Turret-mounted weapon [Two Turret-mounted Quad Heavy Bolters]

Thunderfire Cannons [Thunderfire Cannon]

Thunderfire Cannons [Thunderfire Cannon]

+ Fortification +

Comms Relay
 

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Welcome to Heresy! :drinks:

I like your second list more, but the copy+paste from Battlescribe can deter people from reading. Writing things out a little more straightforward like this:

5 man Sternguard - 2x combi-flamers, 3x combi-meltas, Drop Pod w. Missile Launcher
can really help people understand what's going on easier :eek:k:

As for the list, when you say:

+ Fortification +

Comms Relay
You mean Aegis Defense Line with Comms Relay, right? As far as I'm aware you can't just take the Relay. If you indeed can I'd love to know a reference that I may cite when playing my own games...the 50 points for the defense line often steers me away from it.
 

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Thank you for the advice on re-writing, I'll get on it via PC in the morning.

I've sense found out you can't take the comms relay except as an upgrade, that sucks! Got a spare 20pts floating around now!
 

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I'd drop the power weapon and plasma pistol from the Tactical sergeant, the auspex from the Librarian, and the missile launcher from the Scouts to accommodate the ADL. I doubt that you'll miss those 50 points in upgrades and you might enjoy having your camo'd up Scouts in solid cover manning that Relay. If you don't want to drop the missile launcher from the Scouts, maybe drop it from the third Drop Pod.

As a side note should you get in combat, your Librarian will stop you from being able to make a Sweeping Advance with your Sternguard. It's not something bad per se, but it's always bugged me enough not to mix armour like that.
 

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Thank you.

The powersword and plasma pistol has been grating with me, that was mainly a choice as the tourny is 'as you see it' and I had the model, I should be able to paint another model in time!

I need to look up sweeping advance, the libby has been there to buff tlthe sternguard with me rolling on divination, that was the idea of the auspex.
 

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Taking advice from another thread and now merging the two, here's where I'm at:

Took out the cyclone missile pod, how does this look.

had permission to use the raptor inlieu of a storm raven in the Storm wing formation, I worry that I could not role high enough for reserves until too late.

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Terminator Librarian, mastery 2, storm bolter

+ Elites +

Contemptor Mortis - 2 x kheres Extra Armor
Contemptor Mortis - 2 x kheres Extra Armor
Sternguard Veteran Squad - 2 x combi flamer, 3 x combi melta, drop pod with deathwind launcher.

+ Troops +

Scout Squad - 5 x sniper, camo cloaks
10 Tactical Squad - bolt pistol, chainsword, flamer, heavy bolter, drop pod.
10 Tactical Squad - combi melta, meltagun, multi melta, drop pod.

+ Heavy Support +

Thunderfire Cannon
Thunderfire Cannon

+ Stormwing Formation +

Fire Raptor
Stormtalon with Skyhammer missiles
Stormtalon with Skyhammer missiles
 
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