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That Taurox is simply the worst thing GW has ever produced.

I'm no GW hater, I have 23 years behind me but that thing is just terrible.
 

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It is, but I'm am not a huge fan of buying a storm trooper force, I just want some rules fixed in the IG codex to match some of the crap that Tau has. I didn't figure on buying 2 new codexes....
 

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It is, but I'm am not a huge fan of buying a storm trooper force, I just want some rules fixed in the IG codex to match some of the crap that Tau has. I didn't figure on buying 2 new codexes....
New Stormtroopers are available to the current IG as an elites, rules are in the WD. There is a chance the may be in the new codex too, so unless you're planning on a pure Stormtrooper army to run on it's own I'd hold off on buying this book until you know what's in the IG one.
 

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I'm not entirely sure about the future status of ST's in IG codex's, on one level they could be as they are currently: as an elites choice, on the other hand they could be only able to taken as allies thus meaning if you want to take them you need to buy the second $100 dollar (30 pages less than a "full" dex but the same price - at least in NZ).

What makes this interesting is that this is the first time GW has done it this way, yes we have the Legion of the Dammed and the =I= books as well as the Knights but they all came out after their parent dex's got an update so there are versions of the units within their traditional parents dexs. This is the first time it has happened this way round.

Interesting to see how it turns out, not sure which way it will fall but for future proofing sake I'd be tempted to pick up a copy of the WD with the rules in it. Sure you won't technically be able to use those rules with the new Guard dex if it doesn't have the ST's in it because it's not Codex: IG it's Codex: AM or whatever they are calling it.It doesn't take a genius to see that it's a rebranding of the book/army not a completely "new" race and therefore IMHO (and I know people will disagree) if your opponent has any sense of fair play/decency/intellegence they should let you use the WD rules with the new IG dex if there is no ST rules within it. Just my opinion though.
 

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Part of the whole "rumors embargo" I imagine, well that's best case scenario, worst case is that ST's are not going to be in the new IG dex. If you look on the Website at the Taurox entry it mentions:



Specifically the bit about Astra Militarum, no mention of Imperial Guard. The current issue of WD Weekly uses both terms. So.... yeah jury is still out on a few things.
 

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im sure we are all flapping at nothing, isnt the guard codex out next week with the ogryns? this militarium tempestus is just a stand alone codex for that special opps force if you wanted to do a stormtrooper with a load of commisars force.
Normal guard codex will be along shortly , along with an army box(cadian battle force has gone) calling itself astra militarium or as we know them imperial guard,just like we call adepta sorita sisters of battle and adeptus astartes space marines.and i cant see these chaps getting the boot to form there own codex,the storm troopers will no doubt still be in the mix otherwise why release both codex so close together.

also the entries in WD will list this stuff as to be used with codex: imperial guard because at the time of the WD being released codex Astra militarium doesnt exist .



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I hope we are, I'd hate to see ST's be removed from the IG dex, they make a nice counter point to the "rabble" and are a great way to work a different aesthetic into a IG force while keeping within the list. Normal IG book is out next week according to the WDW. AM is a new term rather the AA or AS which have been the official "in universe" names for ages but have never been used as official names by GW.

I know that the "Astra Militarium" doesn't exist yet, the term is used pretty much evenly with the term IG in the WDW and it says AM is released next week, but at the same time the screen shot I've chucked up above makes no mention of IG but does of the AM and a website is a lot easier to change than a hard copy (obviously).

My suspicion is that why would GW put the ST's in the new IG dex when they have just released a stand alone dex for them, surely it makes better "business sense" to get players to buy two dexes rather than one. Releasing them close together would make sense as it the two dexes would be riding the "oooohhhh shiney" factor of each other. I'm not saying that's what will happen, I'm just saying I could very easily see it happening.

Looking forward to seeing those Ogyrn though, really looking forward to seeing the sprues and how they gel with the Ogre kits.
 

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Those Tempestus Scions are gorgeous. They look like proper high tech sci fi soldiers. Still going to keep calling them Storm Troopers though.
 

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I hope we are, I'd hate to see ST's be removed from the IG dex, they make a nice counter point to the "rabble" and are a great way to work a different aesthetic into a IG force while keeping within the list. Normal IG book is out next week according to the WDW. AM is a new term rather the AA or AS which have been the official "in universe" names for ages but have never been used as official names by GW.

I know that the "Astra Militarium" doesn't exist yet, the term is used pretty much evenly with the term IG in the WDW and it says AM is released next week, but at the same time the screen shot I've chucked up above makes no mention of IG but does of the AM and a website is a lot easier to change than a hard copy (obviously).

My suspicion is that why would GW put the ST's in the new IG dex when they have just released a stand alone dex for them, surely it makes better "business sense" to get players to buy two dexes rather than one. Releasing them close together would make sense as it the two dexes would be riding the "oooohhhh shiney" factor of each other. I'm not saying that's what will happen, I'm just saying I could very easily see it happening.

Looking forward to seeing those Ogyrn though, really looking forward to seeing the sprues and how they gel with the Ogre kits.
According to the GW blog this release is similar to the LotD: a part of a codex that you can field alone if you want to. I'm not surprised they did this as they seem to be releasing options for specialist units to be stand-alone armies. Inquisition, Knights, LotD, and now MT.

Personally I love it. I love Dark Angels but have always had a place in my heart for LotD. Now I don't have to choose and can take them without needing to drop 200ish points on an HQ and Scout Squad to bring them along. And likely I would be able to take MT if I wanted. How cool the models look, I just might...but not the Taurox. The model itself looks good to me but the ridiculous 4 independent treads instead of tires thing kills it for me.
 

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Those Taurox's would look much better as a 6X6 kinda like the Mercedes G63 AMG 6X6.

A little Chaoss Renegades kit bash from FW would make them look like the traitor guard from
Space Marine.
 

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So a single unit entry gets a supplement again, ala LotD? So there is a Knights Codex, a Stormtrooper supplement, IF, IH, BL, Ilywilly Elves, Tau something, anything else? Seven plus new dexes/supplements. But BT got scrapped. Its a wonder why I havent bought anything in 3-4 months. bitchbitchbitch enjoy your moneygrabs!
 

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Interesting, another Guard rival; they look really familiar. Could that be a commissar, or repainted Karskins.......na? No way. :p

Still on the flip side it will be interesting to see how this develops. Can I be the first one to say that, for an official Codex and not a Supplemental, it seems really short(small)? anyone else notice that?
 

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2nd Edition had a lot of imperial factions that could ally to Marines and Guard, this is just a revival of that idea. Likewise Codex Supplements trace their roots to third, which is how Templars were originally played.

These are not new ideas for GW to have, they're just brining them back in an attempt to move away from the strictly defined way to play that 3rd-5th had and back to the 2nd Ed's "play what you want". 6th edition is a toolkit of optional accessories, not just a straight up cash grab.
 
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