[The Sullen One]

Well both sides make good points, and certainly both Star Wars and 40k are great examples of Gothic sci-fi, though Episode I is and always will be a crime against humanity.

Anyway rather than getting to deeply into this argument, I'm just going to say one thing, the Borg. They'd just assimilate everyone, game over.

 

[hells_fury]

how about this, the imperium of man is the future of the allience, hmmmmm, yeah, bet nobody thought of that. most of the fancy star wars tech was lost in the dark ages of technology. jedis became extinct and were replaced with psykers as the force mutated into the warp. yeah, bet no-one seen that coming lol

 

[High Marshall Mendark]

Well all i can say to this battles outcome is:

 

[BlackApostleVilhelm]

lmao the water i was drinking just came out of my nose i was laughing so hard at that

 

[chromedog]

GWS would never whore themselves to that two-bit writer now, or in 39,000 years! He may have the money but its never going to happen. Hell, a cataclysmic war between a pre-heresy Imperium and the Old Republic is more likely to happen!

Besides, hasbro sucks and so does wizards of the coast, everything that comes out of those two is useless CRAP. (except magic:the gathering and JUST the D&D rulebooks.) Pre-painted miniatures especially D&D mini's are pure garbage. When I play D&D I use GWS models.

Sarcasm detection FAIL. To say that Hasbro only produces crap, and then cite two examples to back your claim. Irony much?

As Hasbro absorbed several smaller games companies, as it shall also do to GW unless they raise their game. GW are still a minnow in the pond. They should at least be aware of the sharks circling.

Psssha! Nerds debating two entirely fictitious and inconsistent universes as to which is better. Still, at least it isn't a Rugby is better than NFL argument.

{Neither is a real sport. Real men play hockey ]k:

 

[The Sullen One]

As Hasbro absorbed several smaller games companies, as it shall also do to GW unless they raise their game. GW are still a minnow in the pond. They should at least be aware of the sharks circling.

How do figure this one mate, GW are pretty much the market leaders in the wargaming industry, and with over three hundred stores in nearly twenty countries their hardly minnows. Think of GW as the Tesco of the wargaming industry and you've got a much more accurate picture.

 

[BlackApostleVilhelm]

please dont get me started on how football is better than rugby and hockey. i love all three and would hate to have to take the multi-melta to those two.

 

[Zondarian]

How do figure this one mate, GW are pretty much the market leaders in the wargaming industry, and with over three hundred stores in nearly twenty countries their hardly minnows. Think of GW as the Tesco of the wargaming industry and you've got a much more accurate picture.

I'm a fan of Warhammer as much as the next Heresy member, but being the leaders of Tabletop gaming doesn't in itself mean the company is financially successful. They have never been the richest company in the world and as far as finances go Warhammer is not rich enough to be anywhere in the same league as Hasbro and it's shitty toys. The phrase that seems useful here is that, Its safer to be a big fish in a small pond but you would still get your arse handed to you by a medium sized fish from the ocean.

 

[Red Orc]

Exactly. If GW is Tescos, Hasbro is WalMart.

The fact is, GW may be the biggest tabletop battle-game company in the world, but then again I'm the world's tallest person... in my house. In a very small and limited field, I'm definately the biggest.

Hasbro, on the other hand, wouldn't even be able to fit in my house, it would to knock half the street down to accommodate its garganuan Jabba-the-Hutt-esque bulk.

I hope you know where I'm going with this metaphor, because I really can't remember.

:live long and cyclops:

 

[Ravingbantha]

In a ground fight the Emperium would win, Shear numbers and alot better armor, combined with Spaec Marines... However in Space Battle it's hard to say. I think it was in the book "Battle for the Abyss" it talked about how slow ship to ship combat was, they fired a shot and it took a few mins to hit, space battles would last hours. All the while SW warships can pound away at the Imperium ships and cripple them in the few mins it took to reload.

However the one saving grace for the Imperium would be the shear bulk of their warships. With so much armor plating, it's possible that the Hulls and shields would simply shrug off most attacks. So what you have are ships that are fast firing with hundreds of weapons and thinner armor Vs. Massive thick plated warships that shoot sky scraper sized torpedos and can carry Space Marines for Boarding actions.

 

[Col. Schafer]

Star trek wins

 

[Fallen]

Still, at least it isn't a Rugby is better than NFL argument.

{Neither is a real sport. Real men play hockey }

please dont get me started on how football is better than rugby and hockey. i love all three and would hate to have to take the multi-melta to those two.

all three are good, football for its (shity) way of being marketable (seriously it should take maybe...maybe...a hour and a half to do the game, rugby (aka backyard FB w/o pads) for being smashmouth, and hockey (ice hockey i assume...what other kinds are there that men play?) because i cant do half that shit and they do it all ...sober

for a purely pain causing sport, check out wrestling (not pro)

Exactly. If GW is Tescos, Hasbro is WalMart.

The fact is, GW may be the biggest tabletop battle-game company in the world, but then again I'm the world's tallest person... in my house. In a very small and limited field, I'm definately the biggest.

Hasbro, on the other hand, wouldn't even be able to fit in my house, it would to knock half the street down to accommodate its garganuan Jabba-the-Hutt-esque bulk.

I hope you know where I'm going with this metaphor, because I really can't remember.

:live long and cyclops:

ya i also agree that GW has the market cornered in its little pool, but against the hasbro....im not so sure, all they need is another good cartoon to market (TMNT, GI JOE, Transformers - all original runs) to make their product be the apex of their industry.

 

[muffinman82]

Yeah but what if the death star nuked Terra

There goes the golden toilet

 

[ICatoSicarius235]

"Bigger"
HAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAH
No. An ISD is smaller than an escort.
"Muh BDZ"
Non-canon, likely propaganda, as we have not seen a single one performed.
"Muh Vader"
Got owned a Luke, who was only just discovering his true potential.
"Have they taken the bait?"
"No"
"What do you mean, 'no- ack!" his chest suddenly blows out.
The "Sith Lord" lowers his bolter, his form shifting and warping, before it changes into an Alpha Legionnaire. "For the Emperor of Mankind." Frozen in shock, everyone is slaughtered where they stand. Across the Galaxy, countless beings die. The Force itself screams in agony, before going silent.
The. Freaking. End.

 

[ICatoSicarius235]

This is making me physically ill. The sheer amount of wank I am seeing here is obscene.
I'm pretty sure that Daneel is from Stardestroyer.net, a place known for wanking Star Wars.

 

[ICatoSicarius235]

These people are retards.

 

[ICatoSicarius235]

Daneel, you have shown no evidence. You are the worst debater here.

 

[ICatoSicarius235]

"Hundreds of super star destroyers"

Just...no. That's not going to happen. The sheer amount of wank you are spewing is hilarious.
Star Wars fans are pure distilled cancer, and always have been. That is really the only explanation you need.
"The Force gg" is the go to answer for most of them, and unlike other memes like "lol Speedforce", it's 100% unironic. Other fanbases at least try to show feats and interpret them, but SW wankers are content with upvoting vague ramblings about how the Force can do anything, and how lightsabers can cut anyone, and if you disagree you probably had a bad childhood.
If you're a Star Wars fan reading this and thinking "well I'm not like this", that may be true. But it doesn't make a difference, because you are complicit in the shi**ery of those fans. You are part of a toxic culture that allows people to wank subpar space fantasy characters without social and moral repercussions. Every day you are not working against them is a day enabling them. You are part of the problem.
There is no such a thing as a good Star Wars fan.
You will never get an objective view on this from a Star Wars fan. The type of SW fan you're likely to encounter here has likely fully bought into Lucasfilm's unprecedented brainwashing. They probably have Legos and watch the Rebels cartoon. You won't get through to them, and they cannot be objective. Because the truth is, every new piece of merchandise is like additional wool over their eyes, every new cartoon episode another layer of insulation from the reality that Star Wars is fething rubbish lmao.

 

[ICatoSicarius235]

Here's an F u to the mando lovers:



Mandalore was falling. People had said it was impossible; that nothing could take it, not even the Empire itself.
They were wrong.
"So much for 'Unbeatable force' ", said a Catachan Guardsman, as he ripped a warrior's head from his struggling corpse. Resistance was, oddly enough, light. The enemy's troops were underequipped, poorly trained, and unbelievably incompetent. "How were these people feared?" thought a Kriegsman as his regiment advanced into the supposedly "impenetrable" city. They were held up for a moment as some engineers cleared up a barricade that the fleeing enemy had hastily erected. The Commissar in charge led the purge, as thousands of fleeing Mandalorians were gunned down by the pitiless las-fire of Emperor's Finest.
Up in orbit, the wrecked hulks of Mandalorian battle cruisers floated, scorched and pitted beyond recognition. Their ships had been woefully underprepared for an invasion fleet of this magnitude. It did not matter.

A few weeks later..
The ships orbiting Mandalore became aware of new arrivals in the system. They translated from the Warp, bearing the proud colors of the Ultramarines.
Primarch Roboute Guilliman of the Ultramarines Legion, along with the Hero of Graia, Captain Titus, had returned.
Shortly afterwards, Mandalore surrendered. With its fall, the way to Kamino lay open.