[geneticdeviant]

I was hoping you could answer a question for me regarding the Insane Bravado rule.

Say i attach Ragnar to a unit of blood claws, does this rule merely add 3 bonus attacks to the unit when launching an assault or is that 3 bonus attacks for each blood claw model?

 

[Baron Spikey]

It attacks in assault per model, and it's not 3- it's d3, as in you roll a dice and 1-2=1, 3-4=2, and 5-6=3.

Usually it's not worth putting Ragnar with Blood Claws as they get 2 attacks on the charge any way so there's a chance with Ragnar they'd actually be hitting less (because the d3 is instead of the usual attack bonus for charging not as well as).

 

[geneticdeviant]

Im assuming the best setup would be ragnar acompanying a unit of 10 wolf guard.

2 attacks standard for the wolf guard each, with insane bravado that adds between 1 and 3 additional attacks on the charge for between 30 and 50 attacks (not including Ragnars attacks). Add in the furious charge rule where the unit gains +1 to initiative as well as +1 strength when charging into close combat. Thats 30-50 attacks at strength 5 and iniative 5. So your likely hitting first, hitting hard, and hitting lots.

 

[Arcangon]

Ragnar cannot reduce the number of bonus attacks blood claws get.

Q. How does Ragnar Blackmane’s Insane
Bravado bonus interact with Berserk Charge?
A. The unit would gain +D3 Attacks when it
charges, with a minimum of +2 (as this is the
minimum bonus conferred by the Berserk
Charge ability) – these effects do not stack.

However, the effects are reduced in comparison to what they could be on another unit.

 

[Baron Spikey]

Ragnar cannot reduce the number of bonus attacks blood claws get.



However, the effects are reduced in comparison to what they could be on another unit.

My bad- still 2/3 of the time you'll get the same amount of attacks as if Ragnar wasn't there.

 

[sirah8]

Ragnar gives a unit D3 bonus attacks, INSTEAD of the normal +1.
The standard +1 attack is not claimed because a dice is rolled instead of it. So a unit with rag will get a bonus of a min +1 to a max of +3 attacks and thats it. This means an averange of +2 attacks per round. Thats what blood claws do in the first place.
What i am unsure of, is if the D3 deducts the initial +1 bonus attack of the claws. Since ragnar and his unit roll a D3 instead of the normal charge bonus, this leaves the claws only with the second bonus attack, plus the D3 result. Sum it up to an average of +3 attacks (2 min, 4 max).
But even if this isnt the case, i would save those 240 points to add a second claw squad. A common 7 man squad of claws with ragnar, will get:
1 normal attack
+D3 ===> av of +2 by bravado
+2 from bloodclaws berserk
total of 5 attacks, x7 units =35, +7 attacks gained by ragnar (berserk bonus doesnt aply to him)= 42 attacks

a second unit of claws instead of rag would give you 3 attacks per charge
for 14 models (2 sq of 7) this gives = 42 attacks

There are other bonuses as well, but the points difference isnt worth it....my opinion though

 

[PanzerPig]

Im assuming the best setup would be ragnar acompanying a unit of 10 wolf guard.

Im not sure this is, simply due to the fact that 10 WG and Ragnar is going to be a massive point sink and its way to overkill. If i took ragnar i'd use him alongside Grey Hunters and a wolf guard leader for them with PF, another PF in the GH unit, along with a wolf standard and MotW. This would make for a very killy unit and costs a lot less than the WG unit.