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Hey guys. Ive been wanting to buy the Canis model for some time now and have finally decided to actually buy it now.

When i get the model, obviously i will want to try him out on the tabletop.

Can anyone please advise how best to use Canis? What army list should i have to really get the best out of him?


Thanks in advance.
 

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well, Canis is pretty cheap in terms of points (a lord in twm with 2 wolf claws costs the same as he does, so you get the saga AND the attack modifying ability for free) however, he has 2 clear disadvantages. 1) Ld8 is pretty big since if you're running things like fenrisian wolves you WILL need to take some Ld tests. the second disadvantage is the lack of an invul save, but this can be somewhat compensated by either sticking him with a TWC unit with SS or in a large unit of fenrisian wolves. He has a large number of attacks and can reroll to hit with good initiative so he should be killing quite a bit before stuff can hit back. Be careful with dreadnoughts though, since you're only S5 and a dread will instant death you.

I actually think the saga is one of the more enticing parts of canis, especially if you run a cavalry heavy army. I think one of the nicer things to play together with canis is Iron priests in TWM with cyberwolves. Having initiative 5 is pretty awesome, and will allow the cyberwolves to actually be quite a threat in combat until the priest hits with the hammer.

being able to take wolves as troops means of course that you can take 3 units of TWC and still be able to take a large-ish bubblewrap unit of wolves. Again, with the saga they can actually be moderately dangerous if your opponent doesn't shoot them up, which leaves your nastier stuff alive and in cover.

One thing I'll stress though is that you NEED some sort of fire support, because otherwise all your pretty TWC won't be able to get anything out of their transports and you'll just get shot to death.


so, if you use him make sure you use his special abilities to maximum effect. If you're not going to be using fenrisian wolves or cyberwolves, you might as well take a double wolf claw lord with belt of russ and saga of warrior born which will cost only slightly more but give you much more value.


hope that helps,


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So will a unit including canis, a iron priest on thunderwolf accompanied by 4 cyberwolves, and two other standard thunderwolf cavalry be viable? How would you equip the two thunderwolves? one with SS and one with PF?
 

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You can put Canis with either the the Iron Priest /w Mount and Wolves OR the TWC, but not with both (because you can't combine two units, the Independent Character joins a unit, not the other way around).
 

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Canis is... tricky, to be perfectly honest, the models not worth the money, Wolf lords are not competitive, special characters are not competitive, TWC are not really that good for the points either.

in a fun game, yeah throw him with a small squad of TWC with SS's to soak fire. but remember this: Canis will do MORE attacks the MORE enemies that are in base to base contact with him. IE: if he is in a squad you wont get as many enemies in base to base with him
 

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special characters are not competitive, TWC are not really that good for the points either.
Your joing right? Some Special Characters are worth their weight in gold.

Vulcan? Eldrad? Kharn? All are very solid SC.

And some of the Space Wolves lists that have done extremely well have used Thunderwolf Cav.

Be very careful when you make broad statements like that, as more often than not you'll find there are cases where you are completely wrong.
 

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you can't join 2 units (TWC and Iron Priest) and also you can't make Canis join the IP as far as RAW goes (TWM rules says a character in one can ONLY join units of FW and TWC. Doesn't say anything about IP in TWM) which can be a little limiting.

maybe gen.ahab can give you more help, since he seems to have much more experience with TWC heavy armies than I do, me being an MSU kinda guy these days
 

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Canis is... tricky, to be perfectly honest, the models not worth the money, Wolf lords are not competitive, special characters are not competitive, TWC are not really that good for the points either.
*smack*

What the heck? =/ Wolf Lords are great, many Special Characters are great, Thunderwolf Cavalry are great... gah!
 

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*smack*

What the heck? =/ Wolf Lords are great, many Special Characters are great, Thunderwolf Cavalry are great... gah!
He has a point on the Wolf Lords, most of the time Wolf Priests and Rune Priests would be my pick. But Canis is cheaper than an eqvilent Wolf Lord and so shouldn't be put in the saem boat IMO.
 
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