[Scott799]

Need advice 2000 points Space wolves

Wolf lord
-Wolf Claws
-Saga of bear
Wolf Lord
-Power Fist
-Storm Shield
-Saga of Wolf Kin(More attacks when you kill things) -not sure about name
Wolf Guard
-Wolf Claws
-Razer Back
-Twin Las
Wolf Guard
-Wolf Claws
-Razer Back
-Twin Las
Grey Hunters
-Power Fist
-MoW
-Power Sword
-Flamer
-Razer Back
-Twin Las
Grey Hunters
-Power Fist
-MoW
-Power Sword
-Flamer
-Razer Back
-Twin Las
Grey Hunters
-Power Fist
-MoW
-Power Sword
-Flamer
-Razer Back
-Twin Las


Totals around 2000 points





Tactics-Wolf Lords get into Razer Backs With the wolf Guard. First turn they move 12' and pop smoke, 2 turn get out and get into assult. Grey Hunter Packs Play defensivly First 2 Turns. Turn 3, 2 Grey Hunter Squads move offensivly tward enemy lines and other two stay behind and capture ojectives.


Facing alot of mech lists and a dark angels player who plays all terminators..............

 

[Hurricane]

First off you need to separate your list into the style of a FOC. Take a look at some of the other review threads here to get an idea of what that would entail.

It would also help a lot to put how many models are in each unit and how many of each upgrade you are taking. Finally if you were to give an overall point cost (not individual point cost of items) of each squad it would help us ensure your math is correct.

After you do this THEN I'll take a look at the list.

 

[Flame80010]

HQ
Wolf lord
-Wolf Claws
-Saga of bear

Wolf Lord
-Power Fist
-Storm Shield
-Saga of Wolf Kin(More attacks when you kill things) -not sure about name

ELITE
Wolf Guard
-Wolf Claws
-Razer Back
-Twin Las

Wolf Guard
-Wolf Claws
-Razer Back
-Twin Las

TROOPS
Grey Hunters
-Power Fist
-MoW
-Power Sword
-Flamer
-Razer Back
-Twin Las

Grey Hunters
-Power Fist
-MoW
-Power Sword
-Flamer
-Razer Back
-Twin Las

Grey Hunters
-Power Fist
-MoW
-Power Sword
-Flamer
-Razer Back
-Twin Las

figured id just do it for the guy ya know x3
some rough point totals on the squads would be nice (as long as you dont list each peice of equipments point cost its fine)
also numbers in your squad we dont know how many of what we are dealing with?

 

[Scott799]

Ooops! im sorry people (I make most of my lists on army builder and was confused on how to write them down here is my list, sorry for my confusion over format of lists.)

HQ
(1)Wolf lord-165
-Wolf Claws
-Saga of bear

(1)Wolf Lord-165
-Power Fist
-Storm Shield
-Saga of Wolf Kin(More attacks when you kill things) -not sure about name

ELITE
(5)Wolf Guard-215
-Power Weapon
-Razer Back
-Twin Las-cannon

(5)Wolf Guard-215
-Power Weapon
-Razer Back
-Twin Las-cannon

TROOPS
(5)Grey Hunters-210
-Power Fist
-MotW
-Power Sword
-Flamer
-Razer Back
-Twin Las-cannon

(5)Grey Hunters-210
-Power Fist
-MotW
-Power Sword
-Flamer
-Razer Back
-Twin Las-cannon

(5)Grey Hunters-210
-Power Fist
-MotW
-Power Sword
-Flamer
-Razer Back
-Twin Las-cannon

(5)Grey Hunters-210
-Power Fist
-MotW
-Power Sword
-Flamer
-Razer Back
-Twin Las-cannon

Heavy Support
Predator-85
-Heavy Bolter Sponsons
Predator-85
-Heavy Bolter Sponsons
Predator-85
-Heavy Bolter Sponsons




Im at 1855 Right now need some fillers, considering a big squad of Blood Claws.

 

[Hurricane]

Ah much much better! Ok so let's begin.

According to your original post you plan on running your wolf guard in razorbacks and moving twelve inches. Put them in rhino's instead, you save 40 points and get the repair rule.

If you enjoy having large numbers of wolf guard I would think of replacing your two wolf lords with Logan Grimnar as he is a BEAST and buffs not just his squad but other squads too. This is if you are still looking for major close combat power, but I would also think of replacing the two wolf lords (which I think are most viable on thunderwolf cavalry) with either two rune priests or two wolf priests. Both are much cheaper and while the wolf priests would greatly enhance the entire squad, the rune priests are for something different in mind which I'll bring up later.

With all the saved points I would bump up the number of wolf guard in each squad (since they are in rhinos now) and kit them out with combi-meltas to pop armor, and perhaps some power weapons too. Also be sure to add a wolf guard to each grey hunter squad equipped with combi-melta / power fist and I would remove the power fist / power sword from each grey hunter squad to save some more points.

If you've noticed I'm doing this section by section but I'm going to skip to heavy support really fast for now. I'd drop all three predators and use long fangs instead. Three packs with either lascannons or missile launchers will be able to fire at six targets a turn rather than three. I like having either four missile launchers or two lascannons/two missile launchers. Here is where I would put the rune priests and give them living lightning so they can still provide the long range fire support (second power could then be murderous hurricane to protect the long fangs or maybe JotWW).

In addition to adding the long fangs I would instead give them razorback transports with lascannon / tl plasma. This provides you with the long range fire support you are looking for and allows you to have some deadlier grey hunter squads.

Since your heavy support provides your long range fire support I would drop the razorbacks in your grey hunter squads and give them rhinos and just rush everything up. So as before I would drop the power fist and power weapon in each squad and up them to nine models in each rhino (the tenth model being the wolf guard). Keep MotW and give them a standard as well and you will have one vicious squad. Flamers are nice because they are free but I prefer melta or plasma usually, but the weapon isn't too important.

Hmmm, so if you have any more points available you could possibly add some land speeders with MM/HF or a typhoon for some more fire power.

Grey Hunters are usually preferable to blood claws because of the increased WS. Blood claws are best used to take advantage of their large squad size but because you are in a rhino that is kind or meaningless.