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I have always liked the robed dark angels marines and wanted to do an army featuring them. I have decided on an army themed around and converted to resemble the grim reaper or "death". I am calling the chapter the "Angels of Death". It will either be a dark angels successor chapter or a divergence chapter, but that is irrelevant at this point since this is the modeling and painting forum.

So far I have decided on a few things that will probably be definite. All models will have hooded robe. All close combat weapons will be modeled as variations of a scythe. The first model I plan to convert and paint will be a venerable dreadnought as the centerpiece of the army. I have a few ideas in mind like having him wield a large mechanical scythe in his close combat arm and modeling a hood over top of the marine head on the dread. I also want to model him as kind of "robed" but without covering too many of the details on the venerable dreadnought model.

Any ideas on modeling and converting would be helpful. This will be my biggest conversion project ever attempted. Also any ideas on bitz to use for modeling robes or scythes (GW or any other similar scale miniature range) (preferably with a picture and/or link where I can find them) would be extremely helpful.

Oh yea and the paint scheme I am thinking about is black robes highlighted with either dark blues or purples and for the armor I want to paint it to resemble a skeleton or bones.
 

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christ. a robed dread... i'd sugget just a tabard, if youre going to do anything like that, not sure you could manage a full robe on a dread.

otherwise, for cloaked figures, surely jsut use the new DA sprues?
 

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oh yea thats kinda what i meant. not a full body robe. kinda wanted suggestions on where to put tabards or banners or whatever to try and get the feel of a robe without coverring up the whole model.
 

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Hoods combined with a full cloak and tabbard will get the effect you want I think. Something similar to this one that I did not to long ago:




In order to achieve that fully robed look though you might want to look into putting a bit of cloth across the chest as well, perhaps going through the belt area and attaching to the tabbard.
 

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excellent idea. kinda what i was thinking, along with maybe some cloth tabards or whatever they'd be called draped over or hanging from the arms and shin guards of the dread. i think the new venerable dread model has enough of a body structure as opposed to the boxy shaped plastic dread kit and enough space between the legs and the torso to do that.
 

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off topic off the robes, but an idea for converting the dread. i have 2 ghazgul thraka power claw arms that i used for a mechanical old one eye conversion i did that fell apart. i was thinking of building 2 dreadnought arms with them; one arm to hold the scythe and the other holding up an hourglass as if to signify something like "your time is up" to fit the grim reaper image.
a few questions if anyone can help me:
1. how to convert 2 matching dreadnought shoulders to attach the ghazgul arms to? i had thought about the furioso arms but i'd like to avoid using those as i'm not too cormortable with sawing and converting metal
2. how big are eldar wraithlord plastic hands from the new kit? they seem like they would be easy to work with and fit well on the ends of the ghazgul arms. would they match up ok or look too small on a dread?
3. if i use 2 arms with hands where, can i put the ranged weapon (lascannon, assault cannon, or whatever i decide to equip it with) i had thought about shoulder mounting a lascannon on each side to represent twin-linked lascannon or possibly slung underneath the forearm, on top or on the side of the forearm either on one side or one on each arm. any tips on how i could convert this: what parts to use, how to model it, etc or any other ideas where to put the gun(s) and how to model it?
 

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To be honest, I'd drop the actual hourglass, as it's a bit impractical for a combat situation, and instead use hourglass symbols to decorate the dread.
 

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thats an idea, although i wasn't really worried about whether it would be realistic for a dreadnought to be holding an hourglass on an actual battlefield. it was more for the sake of the appearance of the model. i tend to care more about what looks cool vs what is practical or realistic. i may try to model, sculpt, or convert an hourglass hanging from somewhere on the dread instead. especially since the miniature scale hourglass i was looking at using costs $30 (although i do think it would look awesome) it is a doll house accessory 1 inch sized brass hourglass with actual moving sand.
 

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Okay, your best bet for lascannon peices is probably the IG heavy weapon teams. Each weapon sprue comes with a lascannon, autocannon, missile launcher, mortar, and heavy bolter. Two of those sprues and you can twin-link any weapon you want. I wouldn't put it on the shoulders, as it would look to wraithlord-esque. Maybe mount them on either side of the torso, under the armputs.

No idea about the wraithlord hands, although you could order some here:http://battlewagon-bits.com/product/46-1721 for $0.75 to try them out.

The best way to do shoulderpads would probably plasticard; I don't have much experience in that area, so yeah...
 

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I would mount the weapons along the undersides of the forearms myself. Big fan of that look.
 

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thx for the input so far. i think i probably will go with mounting the guns on the forearm either on top underneth or on the side. i think i'm gonna scrap the hourglass in the one hand also so now i need to figure out what to do with the other hand unless i make him wielding the scythe 2-handed and position the guns in a passive look.
 

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if you have the scythe 2-handed, then you could mount the weapons grey knight style on the outside of the arms...
 

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Not to mention that the underslung look is also very easy to pull off with even the most basic knowledge of greenstuff and looks great on most things. Defintatly recommend it.
 

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Do it all the time. Get a model painted then see another part that would just look so much better on said model. Pull said model apart.... :D
 

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Very cool idea, a robbed dread with scythe and hourglass grim reaper-style.

You probably know this one already but the new plastic empire wizard kit has an hourglass in it. Not to sure about its size though, but Ghazghkull's claws are definitely the way to go. I'll give the arms a bit of thought, might come up with something :wink:


This really reminds me of one of my older experiments, a alpha legion preator defiler...or as I used to call him Defiler, "Alas, poor Yorrick... I knew him, Horatio"-class

 
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