Aye that is a sterotype I've heard about Leatharnak, not seen it myself though, though that might be because my core group came from AD&D first, Werewolf was the main game for us as well, The few Vampire games I ran where interesting, its the best way I can describe it. I think some of the group had a real issue with the idea of working for their own interests over the others.
Legend of the Five Rings is an excellent background and game, I used to have loads of the books but sold them after moving up here as LVix was never into the game as much as some of the other group members down in Cornwall. I still have thousands of the cards in a box somewhere though, and a good dozen decks made up.
Interesting comment about 4E there Epic Fail, as someone one who hasn't got the books yet, what would you say is causing that. The decline in the storytelling I mean, have they focused harder on using figures to represent the players due to the Collectable minatures game or do the combat rules just feel more clunky?
I did notice this with the Star Wars RPG reload a year or so back, and I was a little bit dissapointed they had fudged the RPG to just try and sell more of their collectable figures. Although if thats the problem, I'll be honest and say that I'll do what I always do and ignore the figures part anyway.
Oh and Chromedog I do wonder how many of us there are, like you I have not moved into the nWoD. I did get some of the new books but I saw it for the PC edited, wimpy version it was and was extremely dissapointed. Well no that's an understatement, I am very annoyed that the many books that could still have been made will never see the light of day due to this poor reload of one the best RPG's out there. But oh well.