[torealis]

So, i'm putting together my first company now, 5 terms, 50 PA vets. I'm just thinking, why would you ever take vets and give them bolters/plasma guns?

surely the typical, and predominant, loadout, should be CCW, PW etc etc, with maybe a flamer/melta somewhere?

 

[cccp]

yeah, id have them as combat troops.

 

[dakari-mane]

I'm just thinking, why would you ever take vets and give them bolters/plasma guns?

Well either:
Tank Hunter for all of your guns, S5 bolters for killing speeders & a S10 Las-cannon.
Or
Infiltrate the squad into a forward position (within 24" but outside 18") & let rip from turn 1.

If you have used up both your traits its a good way to get some skills in there.

 

[torealis]

i dont use Codex SM. i'm a purist, so i'm using the list from the DA or BA codex, depending on whether i want a death company or not...

so vet skills are out...

 

[dakari-mane]

i dont use Codex SM. i'm a purist, so i'm using the list from the DA or BA codex, depending on whether i want a death company or not...

so vet skills are out...

Oh so you have access to the good veterans. Why take bolters? Because they let you pump out a massive ammount of fire power at close range.
Bolters rock!

 

[torealis]

yeah, but surely you should just take tac marines if you want bolters. why pay extra?

 

[The Son of Horus]

Simply put... Infiltrate. I use Infiltrate almost across the board with my Black Legion army (to the point where I just use the Alpha Legion rules, since I don't take daemons or anything other than Mark of Chaos Undivided anyway, and it's dumb to pay two points more per model if you don't have to.). A squad with bolters and a couple of meltaguns can provide a surprisingly good means of not only knocking out a tank or two, but a decent distraction while your assault units get in position. Infiltrate is worth its weight in gold, IMO.

 

[dakari-mane]

yeah, but surely you should just take tac marines if you want bolters. why pay extra?

Because they can shoot & then if someone gets frisky they are as good as assault marines.
Add to this that they can be taken in units of less than 10 & its all gravy.

 

[torealis]

my vets can't infiltrate...

but yeah, i'll have one squad of the 5 armed with bolters..

 

[Firewolf]

Simply put... Infiltrate. I use Infiltrate almost across the board with my Black Legion army (to the point where I just use the Alpha Legion rules, since I don't take daemons or anything other than Mark of Chaos Undivided anyway, and it's dumb to pay two points more per model if you don't have to.). A squad with bolters and a couple of meltaguns can provide a surprisingly good means of not only knocking out a tank or two, but a decent distraction while your assault units get in position. Infiltrate is worth its weight in gold, IMO.

>> I infiltrate all but 2 units of my Black Legion. Difference is I have plasma wi boolters, melta wi ccw. Like you, I dont take deamons, bit I have a Slaaneshii possessed squad.