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I was checking another forum and saw someone complaining about multiple slayer sword winners and was wondering what this site's thoughts were. The main complaints seemed to be against Natalya Melnik. I know I can't paint good enough or general enough to get anything but dog gone it I am a sportsman. After some research though I did come to this conclusion also.

If I were to see a GD or what not where Natalya Melnik entered a fig the comments from the old mouse probally would be something like this:
{remember this would probally be after 1 or 9 beers also}

Holy.. that is a (explative deleted) cool mini.

Holy.. you're pretty (explative deleted) hot.

HOW you doin.

After she screams for security and whatnot..... Ah well that's life.
 

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Evidently she is a multiple slayer sword winner, and not too sore on the eyes either. Her minatures are beautiful though. Guys on this other forum were complaining about artists always winning. Hey if she has the skills then who says she shouldn't keep competeing? Makes us knuckle draggers try harder to make our minis look good.

Oh and the only people I have met are Phil Anslemo (from Pantera) and I pissed off Mel Gibson.
 

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Yeah, i have no problems with multiple winners at all to be honest, my main issues are when the winner's model is patently not the best. Also, the criteria they judge it by piss me off too, but thats a different issue.
 

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Like all things, I think that it's politics as far as the slayer sword and stuff. IMHO that is. The criteria change every year though don't they.
 

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Well, i read their rules on entries, and one said, i kid you not, in almost these words: Orcs must be green.
Sorry, but i thought they produced unpainted models precisely so you could choose your own colour scheme.
Also its very hypocritical, as they've featured blue goblins in WD a couple of times, even with suggested rules.
I just feel peoples creativity shouldn't be stifled like that, and one of the main points of GD was to promote creativity, as well as exceptional skills.
 

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Exactly Panda. Though, I do love the example they give though of a Bretonian carrying a lasgun as an imperial guardsman. It kinda contradicts itself with the space wolf army I saw on the US site. It was a mix of Chaos fantasy, Space Marine, and Chaos Space Marine painted in a black color scheme. The only evidence were the odd space wolf bits and the Icons on the shoulder pads.
 

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Jussed really annoyed me, coz ive been planning a red skinned ork warboss for a while. I think it'd look great, but then again, i would...
 

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Dont be ridiculous, the rules of Golden Demon are perfectly fair. It is a painting competition celebrating the universes of 40k, WFB and LOTR. Orks are green. Orcs are green. So if you paint a blue Ork, it doesnt belong in the 40k universe, simple as. you are celebrating a different universe. same hobby, different universe. This is why joke entries and real-world inspired entries are disallowed.

as for multiple winners, anyone that complains is a whiny git that doesnt have the skills to win and resents those that do. You think sportsmen complain like that? If they do, screw em.

and mouse, theres nothing wrong with using WFB bits in a 40k model as long as the outcome befits the 40k universe.

and natalya melnik is hot.
 

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Dude, I said I loved that example of the Bretonian with lasgun. I think it's a cool model. Like Panda said though, why can't you have a blue ork as a mutated offshoot of a tribe? In theory it is possible.

Natalya Melnik is nice eye candy. I was kinda upset that the Dark Angels grand master was a 360 pic and not the artist on the GD site.
 

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I think they give us something to aspire too with are painting, yes it would be nice to see other people collecting the slayer sword but if people have the attitued of "well so and so is entering so i'll not bother" then we'll never see different slayer sword winners.

And these winners are generaly good people who would/will help you with your own painting and give you tips.

And as far as the rules for gd go they say they want entries that capture the imagery of the worlds (games).

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She certainly is hot. And an incredibly gifted artist/painter as well that I wish I had half the skills of. If she can line the walls of her house with Slayer swords, she is welcome to it. Painting mini at that level is not easy and those that can do it deserve all the accolades they can get. People who whine about someone winning repeatedly are definitely jealous.

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As far as the judging goes however, I am not impressed with the fluctuating standards. When I entered my Tzeentch Daemon Prince in the GD here in Canada I was told afterwards that one of the biggest problems with the model was the lack of NMM. Excuse me? When the hell did NMM become 'required' to make first cut even? I happen to despise NMM with what is honestly an unhealthy amount hatred and will NEVER lower myself to try it but why should that exclude me and my minis from anything? So long as the model is painted to a high standard then it should stand on its own merit, regardless of painting techniques used. :ireful2::angry::punish:[/rant]
 

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So long as the model is painted to a high standard then it should stand on its own merit
Exactly. They are there to judge painting ability and the appearance of the model, not nebulous concepts like whether the model fits with their opinion on what it should look like, or whether 'correct' techniques are used.
Whats next? You have to use their paints? Their brushes? (which are god aweful, and you can bet your ass the vast majority of the GD winners do not use)
 

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Dont be ridiculous, the rules of Golden Demon are perfectly fair. It is a painting competition celebrating the universes of 40k, WFB and LOTR. Orks are green. Orcs are green. So if you paint a blue Ork, it doesnt belong in the 40k universe, simple as. you are celebrating a different universe. same hobby, different universe. This is why joke entries and real-world inspired entries are disallowed.

as for multiple winners, anyone that complains is a whiny git that doesnt have the skills to win and resents those that do. You think sportsmen complain like that? If they do, fuck em.
is it really necessary to embark upon these whiney rants every time you come across a post that is questioning gw? yes, youre a gw employee, and yes, sticking up for gw to the death is very tiresome.
 

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orks are kinda tribal, they are also dumb. I could easily see them using blue (or especially red) body paint for tradition or other reasons. like "If we paints our skins blue, den mebe da humes' think wez Tau, den dey won't espekt us to charge'em"
 

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sticking up for gw to the death is very tiresome.
Thank you. Its not like he'll lose his job or anything. Or will he? If thats the case i would be disgusted with the company, especially because they rely on people working for a lot less money than they could be elsewhere, due to their love of the game.
 
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