[inigo montoya]

I have been playing for a long time, and i have either been playing wrong for some time or got shafted by the to at my last tournament.

I had a chimera sitting up against a 6" tall wall so all you could see was the front armor. My opponent was playing tau, and took a shot at the chimera. No biggy, except the to said that since he was on the side armor plane ( he was, BUT the side was not visible at all - the wall was 3 x higher than the tank ) he was shooting side armor. I argues that since there was no visible side armor, that was not possible, but he said that it was a side armor shot.

No big deal, I won anyway, but if that is true then it changes how the game is played!

 

[Flame80010]

Actualy the rulebook covers this exact situation

he shoots at the front armor AND you get a cover save

i dont know which page it is...
but it covers that situation exactly

 

[OIIIIIIO]

Pg 62 of the BRB covers this exactly... it would be against the side armor but you should have gotten a 3+ cover saver if I am understanding the way you explained it correctly.

 

[inigo montoya]

So even though the side armor is not visible ( it is literally against a building ) it is a side armor shot? GW has some screwy rules, but shooting side armor that is hidden is lame at best.

 

[DeathKlokk]

Think of it as the shot passing through the cover and you get a 3+ to make it stop the shot. It is coming from a specific direction (the side) the fact that it is covered by a wall doesn't turn the shot into a magic bullet to go around it and hit a side not facing it.

 

[Flame80010]

i though it would hit the front armor, since it hits it on an angle

mustive read it wrong...

didnt have my book on me so couldnt confirm

 

[DeathKlokk]

OK, it IS the facing that is visible. Flame has the right of it.

BRB pg 62, left column, last paragraph, last sentence:

In this case they may take the shot against the facing they can see, but to represent such an extremely angled shot, the vehicle recieves a 3+ cover save.

Last time I take Tal's word for it...lol

 

[inigo montoya]

That was how I played it all along deathklokk. Thanks for the clarification!
Me 1
TO 0

 

[OIIIIIIO]

he he he ... sorry 'bout that ... I got the page number correct though. Just remember kids, drugs are bad.

 

[jaws900]

since he can't see ANY of the side he is shooting at then you get a 3+ cover save. however he still hits side armour.

 

[don_mondo]

since he can't see ANY of the side he is shooting at then you get a 3+ cover save. however he still hits side armour.

!? Did you even bother to read the rest of the thread or look at the page referenced?

3+ cover, shot resolved against the visible armor facing (in this case, NOT the side). If all the shooter sees is the front armor, the shot is resolved against the front armor, regardless of armor facing the shooter.

 

[Cyklown]

...just remember kids, drugs are an exciting life experience that, while not for everyone, can greatly enhance the amount of exciting surprises in life.

Ffixed? <3

 

[DeathKlokk]

If you call "Oh, look I've made myself a brain-dead idiot with no teeth who steals from his grandmother! " a surprise.

 

[Flame80010]

oh mint!

i was right yay me :3 im not crazy!

 

[OIIIIIIO]

If you call "Oh, look I've made myself a brain-dead idiot with no teeth who steals from his grandmother! " a surprise.

I got teeth ... just gotta fid the little bastards ... can't eat corn on the cob without em.:biggrin:

What should happen: He gets to shoot your front armor, due to the extreme angle you get a 3+ cover. Or am I wrong AGAIN?

 

[Flame80010]

What should happen: He gets to shoot your front armor, due to the extreme angle you get a 3+ cover. Or am I wrong AGAIN?

thats the jist of it