[Coder59]

Ok so we have Viking style marines, Germanic style marines, Mongol style marines and even Roman/Greek style marines. And they all work and kick much ass.

So how come we've never seen any Samurai marines? I mean god knows I don't want to see them the concept of samurai trappings in the 41st millenium appauls me.

Has anybody else got any idea why the idea of Samurai marines just doesn't work?

 

[Trevor Drake]

Because the Tau have the monopoly on all things japaneesey right now.

 

[Coder59]

Because the Tau have the monopoly on all things japaneesey right now.

:laugh: So thats why they look like pansy girly men.

 

[Treewizard648]

:laugh: So thats why they look like pansy girly men.

1st: F U!

2nd: You forgot Zulu marines.

 

[Coder59]

1st: F U!

2nd: You forgot Zulu marines.

I Reiterate. Tau are massively girly looking, must be all the anime influences. :laugh:


Actually I kinda like the idea of Zulu influanced Marines :so_happy:

 

[Chocobuncle]

For Zulu I would think they would have more Liberians in the army

About Samurai Marines I've seen one person do it and failed hard but I would really like to see someone do it and make them look really kool dude

 

[Coder59]

For Zulu I would think they would have more Liberians in the army

About Samurai Marines I've seen one person do it and failed hard but I would really like to see someone do it and make them look really kool dude

I've seen some artwork done for them and to be honest it was horrible. It was the swords, Katanas are good (if a bit sissy) looking swords but that razor thin blade looks rubbish in a Space Marine's hands. You would have to redesign the weapon drastically to make it fit in with the 40k feel.

Another danger is making the Helmet look like Darth Vader. It's not a pretty sight.

 

[Treewizard648]

I Reiterate. Tau are massively girly looking, must be all the anime influences. :laugh:


Actually I kinda like the idea of Zulu influanced Marines :so_happy:

I REITERATE that you go F yourself, Tau are awesome especially their tanks.:taunt:

 

[Coder59]

I REITERATE that you go F yourself, Tau are awesome especially their tanks.:taunt:

Well they blow up nice :laugh: I've never met a good Tau player yet they allways bang on about the greater good and everything and how awesome their guns are. They also forget how fast other armies can be and how weak they are in CQC. Funniest battle I ever saw was Eldar Vs Tau, the tau player hadn't a clue what how to fight them and ended up huffing as the Eldar player ate him alive.

 

[Treewizard648]

Well they blow up nice :laugh: I've never met a good Tau player yet they allways bang on about the greater good and everything and how awesome their guns are. They also forget how fast other armies can be and how weak they are in CQC. Funniest battle I ever saw was Eldar Vs Tau, the tau player hadn't a clue what how to fight them and ended up huffing as the Eldar player ate him alive.

Eldar are very difficult to fight for anyone, this is common.

With all the speshul goodies I gotz for my tanks and the strategies I use, they stay "constructed" relatively well throughout my games. Im the Erwin Rommel of the Tau empire!

Guns, many times I have melted SM termies with a salvo of plasma rifle and fusion blaster shots. And with their jetpacks they stay out of CC well. Hand 2 Hand combat isint everything.

Go back to my thread about steam power.

 

[mrrshann618]

If you decided to not go with Katana's as the prime weapon, but went more with a Naginata. Kind of like how alot of grey knights use the "halberd" it would look much better. Also you would need a near complete redesign of the armor. The "plate" look just simply places them as a European style as compared to just about anything else.

That and Tau definately have that "layered, segmented" armor look to it. Now if they could just learn to do more than thier limp-wristed hth they might be worth it. Think about if all the firewarriors could use that Etherial "combat blade" they might be actually halfway decent

 

[Treewizard648]

........That and Tau definately have that "layered, segmented" armor look to it. Now if they could just learn to do more than thier limp-wristed hth they might be worth it. Think about if all the firewarriors could use that Etherial "combat blade" they might be actually halfway decent

Cant, its against their creed. But if you play an o' Shovah army then thyre ok at CC.

 

[mrrshann618]

So what you are saying that that the farsight faction can use those etherial weapons that they strip off all the etherials they slaughter :grin:

 

[Treewizard648]

So what you are saying that that the farsight faction can use those etherial weapons that they strip off all the etherials they slaughter :grin:

no, they use rifle butts, knives, karate, etc. etc.

 

[Thuellai]

Here's your Samurai influences, right here:

Death is more honorable than capture.
The fact that they're that worried about honor in the first place.
A Divine Emperor and Imperial Guard.
Suicidal fanatics being an accepted battle tactic.
UM, A LOT OF THINGS.

 

[Chocobuncle]

For more of a Samurai feel have your army with SM has to be really converted

Snipers use a yumi (longbow)

Scouts and or Bike Squads use a yumi for range or yari (spear) for CC

Devistator Squads who use a teppō or arquebus a early gun

Assault use katana and a wakizashi (Big and small swords)

Maybe Chaplain use a Kanabo (Club with steel studs, was more frequently seen in mythology but deadly in real combat)

Librarian use a katana (Long sword)

If you want maybe a ninja feel too which would be kool maybe

As for Bolter Pistols, use shuriken

Jump Pack Assault have a kusarigama (chain and sickle) weapon

Or whatever else you can think of

 

[Treewizard648]

For more of a Samurai feel have your army with SM has to be really converted

Snipers use a yumi (longbow)

Scouts and or Bike Squads use a yumi for range or yari (spear) for CC

Devistator Squads who use a teppō or arquebus a early gun

Assault use katana and a wakizashi (Big and small swords)

Maybe Chaplain use a Kanabo (Club with steel studs, was more frequently seen in mythology but deadly in real combat)

Librarian use a Wakizashi (Long sword)

If you want maybe a ninja feel too which would be kool maybe

For Bolter Pistols use shuriken

Jump Pack Assault have a kusarigama (chain and sickle) weapon

Or whatever else you can think of

I think Samurai themed SM would be just fine with Katana's, kanabo's, and wakizashi, and possibly naginata's. Plus you could use Samurai style banners with japanese calligraphy. Other than that, I think SM carrying around bow's would be dumb. If I get the chance, I want to draw or make an SM model with Samurai influences. Send me private messages for suggestions and updates.

 

[Chocobuncle]

The Interex (advanced Human civilisation during the Great Crusade)

Technology:
They also used a type of bow or crossbow that the warriors of Horus wrote off as decorative parade weapons, until a skirmish revealed that they could emit bolts of light fully capable of punching through Space Marine armor.

It should be noted that the Interex warriors were quite a match for the Space Marines under Horus' Command.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Interex

The Tech does exist in 40k actually and you can say the SM chapter tried to remake that technology or whatever

 

[Treewizard648]

........The Tech does exist in 40k actually and you can say the SM chapter tried to remake that technology or whatever

I always hated bows, mainly because theyre not as efficient as having an M4 carbine at your side. But I still respect them.

As for the Tech, the chapter itself would get into some deep sh*t for trying something like that, plus it would look rather silly for a futuristic warrior clad in a damn near indestructible armor equipped with a life support system to wield such an arcane device.

 

[Chocobuncle]

it would look rather silly for a futuristic warrior clad in a damn near indestructible armor equipped with a life support system to wield such an arcane device.

"They also used a type of bow or crossbow that the warriors of Horus wrote off as decorative parade weapons, until a skirmish revealed that they could emit bolts of light fully capable of punching through Space Marine armor." -Lexicanum

"It should be noted that the Interex warriors were quite a match for the Space Marines under Horus' Command." -Lexicanum

They were a match for the Space Marines, thats a plus, even under Horus, "the most powerful among the Primarchs", "a tactical genius. He knew precisely which force to send and where to send it, showing no mercy" -Lexicanum, thats like another 3 plus' then times that by like 5

So you must be thinking like those guys thinking its just a little pussy weapon right before it goes through your "near indestructible armor" and your dead