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Hi All

as much as i am enjoying my ork army every now and then my mind wanders to the eldar army i gave up on.

all sitting there unpainted, unloved and gathering dust.

so i have decided to paint them as a change of pace from painting orks.

i think i have a colour scheme i think im happy with but i wanted your guys opinion
here is mr tester guardian (i say tester guardian to explain the scetchy painting.)



and yes that is the OLD style guardian my Eldar collection is old and includes metal and lead models alike.
His head changed colour about 4 times it was purple then white then settled on the ice blue

things i expect to do in this log

1: figure out an army name
2:post a list of current eldar units i own (none of which are painted... not well anyway)
3:take a walk down memory lane.

i wont be converting to much with these so will just be a painted Eldar Army(thats what orks are for)

let me know what you think of the colour scheme and please make suggestions of what might be good.
 

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Great to see you take on the Eldar! As for me the Eldar is all about painting and orks about converting. They complement eachother very well. Now for your test-scheme.

I'm not 100% sure about the pink on the armour. I think it would work better with only blue/purple. Instead keep the pink as a spot-colour and use it on cloths and maybe spiritstones. Also I'm not fond of guns with the same scheme as the armour, it blend together and hard to pick out. Try to have it all blue instead and have less blue on the acctual model. Maybe only helmet, shoulders and knees. The barrel on the Gun could be a metallic or bone.
The blue is though a very nice colour that will light up any battlefield they set their feet on.

Good luck!
 

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The pink is fine on your scheme its like a giant f**k you to Slaanesh :biggrin:
 

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Great to see you take on the Eldar! As for me the Eldar is all about painting and orks about converting. They complement eachother very well. Now for your test-scheme.

I'm not 100% sure about the pink on the armour. I think it would work better with only blue/purple. Instead keep the pink as a spot-colour and use it on cloths and maybe spiritstones. Also I'm not fond of guns with the same scheme as the armour, it blend together and hard to pick out. Try to have it all blue instead and have less blue on the acctual model. Maybe only helmet, shoulders and knees. The barrel on the Gun could be a metallic or bone.
The blue is though a very nice colour that will light up any battlefield they set their feet on.

Good luck!
yeah im feeling a bit more confident with my painting so lets ruin some eldar

I will Probably try another Couple with less / no pink see how it turns out. The pink was the bit i wasnt sure of so i might take another crack

I like this scheme, probably because it's close to the one I use for my Slaaneshi Daemons (which is quite fluffy and funny for Eldars :biggrin: ).



ha ha oh yeah hadn't thought of that. those are some nice looking deamons


The pink is fine on your scheme its like a giant f**k you to Slaanesh :biggrin:
F**K YOU SLAANESH yeah i feel better




Colour scheme looks good but that blue looks to need another coat to get it flat. Apart from that are you planning any haliquens? Some eldar clowns to go with the ork clowns?
i will do another coat but i quite like the speckly blue seems like he has a frosty face

Harlequins would be good just to really blur the line.




Now i just found several boxes of eldar from many years ago. here is my first attempt at counting them
i bought a few models then bought a massive box of them off someone for £60 so im really not sure what there is

1X Farseer (metal)
2X Avatar of khaine (Both Metal)
30X Guardians (15XNew Plastic, 11x old all same stance, 4 metal)
16xRangers..scouts..(Metal)
6xWarlocks(Metal)
8XSwooping hawks(Metal)
2xSwooping Hawk exach (metal)
6XDire Avengers(Metal)
10xstriking scorpions(metal)
2xscorpion exachs(metal)
7xwarpspiders(metal)
2xspiderexach(uh metal)
6x Grav cannon crew and 2 grav cannon platforms(still metal)
5x Wriath guard(metal ... is that one lead?)
1xHarlequin death jester (wax.. just kidding its metal)
1xfuegan the burning lance(ahh god more metal)
1xeldar reaper missing his gun(Why metal there is so much)
1x wraith lord(made from super practical Metal)
1xWarwalker(God damn metal again)
3xGrav Tanks (1 i gave to grim and is now a dakka jet)
20xJet bikes(i think i dont know there are so many parts)
3/4x vipers(again there are just parts everywhere)

and a metric shit tonne of bits possibly full models i think more guardians are in there.

Guess how many of them are painted... NONE NOT A DAMN ONE IS PAINTED JUST BASED.

now i remember why i was put off doing this.
 

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yeah im feeling a bit more confident with my painting so lets ruin some eldar



I will Probably try another Couple with less / no pink see how it turns out. The pink was the bit i wasnt sure of so i might take another crack







ha ha oh yeah hadn't thought of that. those are some nice looking deamons







F**K YOU SLAANESH yeah i feel better











i will do another coat but i quite like the speckly blue seems like he has a frosty face



Harlequins would be good just to really blur the line.









Now i just found several boxes of eldar from many years ago. here is my first attempt at counting them

i bought a few models then bought a massive box of them off someone for £60 so im really not sure what there is



1X Farseer (metal)

2X Avatar of khaine (Both Metal)

30X Guardians (15XNew Plastic, 11x old all same stance, 4 metal)

16xRangers..scouts..(Metal)

6xWarlocks(Metal)

8XSwooping hawks(Metal)

2xSwooping Hawk exach (metal)

6XDire Avengers(Metal)

10xstriking scorpions(metal)

2xscorpion exachs(metal)

7xwarpspiders(metal)

2xspiderexach(uh metal)

6x Grav cannon crew and 2 grav cannon platforms(still metal)

5x Wriath guard(metal ... is that one lead?)

1xHarlequin death jester (wax.. just kidding its metal)

1xfuegan the burning lance(ahh god more metal)

1xeldar reaper missing his gun(Why metal there is so much)

1x wraith lord(made from super practical Metal)

1xWarwalker(God damn metal again)

3xGrav Tanks (1 i gave to grim and is now a dakka jet)

20xJet bikes(i think i dont know there are so many parts)

3/4x vipers(again there are just parts everywhere)



and a metric shit tonne of bits possibly full models i think more guardians are in there.



Guess how many of them are painted... NONE NOT A DAMN ONE IS PAINTED JUST BASED.



now i remember why i was put off doing this.

It's quite a bit. I would think over what you want from this army. How would you like to play it? Then sell some of it off to buy newer kits. Might easen up the motivation.
 

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i think im just going to work through them.

pick a squad and work on it that way.

will have to get a new eldar codex though i have 2nd and 3rd edition codex knocking about somewhere and i dont think they will do.

in honesty what do you think i need to correct army wise.
for the amount of special units i would expect there to be more guardians in my opinion but that might just be my ork brain talking.
 

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Eldar often have a lot of elite troops but in light of the newest codex better list probably take advantage of the more powerful units such as the jetbikes with heavy weapons or even some of the craziness in the form of "D" weapons. But apart from that i don't have much of an idea maybe check the eldar lists for ideas.
 

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Working from your list.

1X Farseer (metal) Go in any list.
2X Avatar of khaine (Both Metal) Have his uses but easy to out manouver.
30X Guardians (15XNew Plastic, 11x old all same stance, 4 metal) They need some Heavy weapons, add the crew and grav platforms here. 3x 12 Guardians with brightlance give you much needed anti-tank, EML for all commers or scatter laser for anti-horde.
16xRangers..scouts..(Metal) Have their uses in most list.
6xWarlocks(Metal) Join with the Guardians for buffs and more WC-Dices.
8XSwooping hawks(Metal) Best used in a squad of 5+exarch to give them a large pieplate to throw around each turn.
2xSwooping Hawk exach (metal) Se above
6XDire Avengers(Metal) Cheep Little unit that can take a Wave Serpent as transport.
10xstriking scorpions(metal) Good against hordes.
2xscorpion exachs(metal)
7xwarpspiders(metal) You could need one more to have to units of 5, exarch inclueded that can jump around hitting rear armour.
2xspiderexach(uh metal)
6x Grav cannon crew and 2 grav cannon platforms(still metal) If these are the smaller platforms use them with the Guardians as above. If not, have them on their own. D-blast is not to be sniffed at.
5x Wriath guard(metal ... is that one lead?) Keepers, hard hitting and can take the hitting back. Joined by Fuegan you have a strong unit that can blow up anything in shooting and Fuegan can take the heat in melee.
1xHarlequin death jester (wax.. just kidding its metal)
1xfuegan the burning lance(ahh god more metal) Se above
1xeldar reaper missing his gun(Why metal there is so much)
1x wraith lord(made from super practical Metal) Give him a Heavy weapon of some sort.
1xWarwalker(God damn metal again) Two slots of Heavy weapons.
3xGrav Tanks (1 i gave to grim and is now a dakka jet) What types?
20xJet bikes(i think i dont know there are so many parts) best used in small squads for last turn objective grabbing.
3/4x vipers(again there are just parts everywhere) keep them cheep and give them range.

Without knowing what weapon loadouts the hevier units have there is difficult to give any firm advice. Their tanks is realy good and you could have on squad of 20 Guardians with 2 grav platforms and then have a unit of 12 or 11+ warlock in a wave serpent as DT. Then, like the DA you have two tanks on the field with massive fire Power and they can disembark onto objectives late game. Equiped right I Think you have most what you need.
Look for ranged anti-hordes, a Farseer on jetbike is better than on foot. He can go faster where his Powers are needed.
 

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Working from your list.
3xGrav Tanks (1 i gave to grim and is now a dakka jet) What types?

3/4x vipers(again there are just parts everywhere) keep them cheep and give them range.

Without knowing what weapon loadouts the hevier units have there is difficult to give any firm advice. Their tanks is realy good and you could have on squad of 20 Guardians with 2 grav platforms and then have a unit of 12 or 11+ warlock in a wave serpent as DT. Then, like the DA you have two tanks on the field with massive fire Power and they can disembark onto objectives late game. Equiped right I Think you have most what you need.
Look for ranged anti-hordes, a Farseer on jetbike is better than on foot. He can go faster where his Powers are needed.
currently they have no weapon loadouts they are just pieces.
ive got the pieces for 2 prism tank turrets (old and metal just how i like them)
and have the parts to make them all standard falcon grav tanks instead i think

Vipers im not sure what they are equipped with if they are even equipped with anything they are in so many pieces dont even remember what weapons they can have.
 

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currently they have no weapon loadouts they are just pieces.
ive got the pieces for 2 prism tank turrets (old and metal just how i like them)
and have the parts to make them all standard falcon grav tanks instead i think

Vipers im not sure what they are equipped with if they are even equipped with anything they are in so many pieces dont even remember what weapons they can have.
Prism's are realy good but I would stay away from the Falcon. Try to convert them into Wave Serpents instead, you could easy change from prism to Serpents whatever the need.

Edit: The wraithguard can take a Wave Serpent as dedicated transport. They are bulky so you can have 6 of them or 5 +character. Good to have the unit reach the enemy since they are slow on their own.
 

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I'm not 100% sure about the pink on the armour. I think it would work better with only blue/purple. Instead keep the pink as a spot-colour and use it on cloths and maybe spiritstones. Also I'm not fond of guns with the same scheme as the armour, it blend together and hard to pick out. Try to have it all blue instead and have less blue on the acctual model. Maybe only helmet, shoulders and knees. The barrel on the Gun could be a metallic or bone.
The blue is though a very nice colour that will light up any battlefield they set their feet on.

Good luck!
took out the pink and yep i think it looks better without seems to be more subtle



Colour scheme looks good but that blue looks to need another coat to get it flat.
You were correct i think i have improved with the newer ones



i went and bought more paints to try and blend a bit better and removed the pink and i think its a great improvement.

here is the outcome i would love to hear people thoughts especially if you prefer purple Helmet or blue Helmet or dont like either



Still need to do their guns and Bases will do them later

Was thinking snowy Bases dont know why i just get a snowy feel fom the models/
 
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