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Hey guys so its been 17yrs 2day, when i started playing and collecting GW products. So i thought i would have a little rememberence day on the past glories of the 40k game system.

I am one of those people who still manage to horde all the old rulebooks and minis from days past and i had decided to get a group of mates round and play a series of battles.

Each battle took place on a far distant war torn planet and used the rules set for 2nd, 3rd and 4th editions of the game. This not only brought back some very fond memories but also showed in depth how much the game had actually changed, tacticaly and simplicaty wise.

I for one still believe that 2nd edition was by far the most competitve and was more tacticaly challangening than the other sets, this may be due tio my biased oppinion but then GW do have a habbit of tring to suck in little kids for the extra profit, thats the only reason the rules set was changed.

I thought i would shre this special day with you guys and take the oppitunity to ask if anyone on this forum still played the old edtions of this much loved sci-fi game, if you dont then my next question would be why? Go on give it ago it's fun.

I dont belive you have to be constricted to one rule set because GW brings a new set out, just for fun i am a strong beleiver that you can use whatever ruleset you want to use. Also it would be nice for some of the long time players and collecters to join in and remember the days of old and past glories that was 2nd edition onwards to the present edition.

So please make an old gamer happy and replie to this post and make whatever comments you deem fit to make.

Thanx in advance Lord Rahl
 

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2nd Editions when I started too... but, the games definately easier to play these days and a short battle no longer takes forever as your having to roll for each model in combat like you used to... I'll always love 2nd ed... but the gameplay is more fun now I find.
 

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I missed 3rd ed but played all from RT. I was quite young when I played RT and never really got it so wont count that!

2nd ed was to long winded imo, but it help make some great spin off games for Necromunda and Gorkamorka.

I think in this day and age its hard enough to find time, paint your models, arrange a game and remember all the rules so I think a flowing is better not just for younger players but also old farts who have to balance real life and wotnot! Im more on the thinking just because something is more long winded does not neseserily make it more tactical. There is still enough detail in the rules and army books.

2nd ed was breakthough in the way it did things, but Im glad things have moved on.
 

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I enjoyed 3rd when it became 3.5, all the good of 3 and 4 combined, 4th was a pile of steaming rending crap, and now 5th is just a joke, I'd like to play 3.5 again, but nobody I know remembers it, and todays generation don't even know what the number 3 is.

I missed 2nd, but from what I keep hearing thats not a bad thing.

I prefer the specialist games rules to the main rule systems though, there old but still pretty much perfect since they don't get messed around with
 

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I played Rogue Trader, and then picked up again with Third Edition.

Second Edition put me off somehow. My abiding memory of it was first time out, parrying occurred in close combat; it just seemed to jar with the brief large brush approach everything else was squashed into and I never played the Edition again.
 

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3rd Ed. was my favorite overall. I came in towards the end of second Ed. and so I dont have to many memories of those days. However from what i remember, It was way to drawn out imo. (ahh the memories :))

got out of the game when 4th just came around and returned a couple months before 5th got released so I dont really know how 4th ranks with the rest.

Just out of curiosity, has anyone here been around since 1st ed.? If so, how was its gameplay and what would you rank it compared to the rest?
 

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1 word... Zoats.
Who eat...Zoatibix!

And all the other really bad jokes based on designer's names, most and least favourite things.

#and who can forget the grafitti covered, not good to take home the meet your parents Ultramarines:biggrin:

Just out of curiosity, has anyone here been around since 1st ed.? If so, how was its gameplay and what would you rank it compared to the rest?
It took ages compared to the other editions; that was why I think 2nd Edition was too stripped down.

Before they brought in army lists you could have each model with different gear; some load outs were actually random, e.g. 50% chance Bolter, otherwise 1- 10% Graviton gun, &c.

Even after they standardised with army lists, if I remember, you still declared which model was shooting at which then rolled to hit (with umpteen range, cover, &c. modifiers), and to wound, then they took each of their saves, then you moved onto the next model.

All the detail was very satisfying with 10 models per side though.
 

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Thanx for all your replies, although i don't think 2nd was drawn out and long winded, i could get through a game of about 2000pts in no more than 5-6 hours, it was perfect when i was young and i would go back and do it all again. This 5th is ok much better than 3rd or 4th but the games are to short, and mostly little kiddies who play now. I used to like going into the GW store and kicking the crap out of grown men back in 2nd but now its like; ugh Gw staff say the kid can break the rules because he is a learner, ppffst, not back in my day sonshine. Alas 5th is here and we must all accept that the good old days are gone :( we will miss you 2nd ed and RT for the really oldies of us there are.
 

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I came in near the middle - end of 3rd edition and thought the rules set worked really well (bar line of sight), 4th edition came out and changed a few things and brought with it my favourite expansion to-date which is the Cities of Death (in my opinion nothing so far has been able to beat the intensity of battles this provides in the new edition of expansions).
 

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It took ages compared to the other editions; that was why I think 2nd Edition was too stripped down.

Before they brought in army lists you could have each model with different gear; some load outs were actually random, e.g. 50% chance Bolter, otherwise 1- 10% Graviton gun, &c.

Even after they standardised with army lists, if I remember, you still declared which model was shooting at which then rolled to hit (with umpteen range, cover, &c. modifiers), and to wound, then they took each of their saves, then you moved onto the next model.

All the detail was very satisfying with 10 models per side though.
That actually sounds very intriguing. Just for the hell of it...i wonder if anyone has or knows how to get ahold of the 1st ed. rulebook. IDK why but I kinda want to field 5th ed. models using 1st ed. rules lol
 

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2nd ed had too much if you don't take this you're just silly. I came in at the very tail-end of 2nd so didn't get into it much but I recall psychic powers that dominated the field and terminators that literally don't die. I think it reflected more of what 40k fluff is meant to be like but I think 5th edition is by far the most balanced and tactful (no other edition has the internal and external balance 5th ed books have so far).

Mind you, my favorite memories are from 3rd ed, simply because that's when I really got into the game, had 2 fully painted armies (compared to 6-7 half painted armies) and played in a lot of tournaments and leagues (+ made a few good friends). Nothing beats VDR either :p.
 

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Anyone remember the Wolf Guard Terminator cheese people used to pull in 2nd ed?

The entire army in Wolf Guard Terminator armor with assault canons....

And you had to shoot at the closest model so guys would put a Rhino in front of a Land Raider...

Overwatch?

Yeah 2nd was a strange one.
 
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