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Apparently the U.S. military is not too far off from fielding bolters. Check it out. At about 4:30 is when they start talking about the special shotgun round for the almost recoilless automatic shotgun. It basically shoots miniature fin-stabilized grenades that arm as they leave the barrel and explode on impact.

 

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Very cool. But, how likely do you think it will be for the world's armed forces to stock them and have these shotguns widely issued to combat patrols? I imagine the weight alone would be an obstacle, especially when one considers that the M16-A2 and other like weapons were designed to be light enough that they would not be considered a hindrance on troop movement.

I can definitely see these weapons attacked to light vehicles...
 

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I want one!

Seriously that weapon opens up a whole new era of FIBUA combat.

I imagine the weight alone would be an obstacle, especially when one considers that the M16-A2 and other like weapons were designed to be light enough that they would not be considered a hindrance on troop movement.
Would it weigh more than a GPMG with 400 belt 7.62 rounds? Brith Squaddies still carry these things around Afghanistan, although they are being replaced by the Minimi.
 

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Intresting, and i think it is planed to be phased in.
although there is also rocket powered bullets that where used in vietnam, although small in quantity and manufacturing defects of the bullets led to inacuacies...forget what they where called though.
 

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there have been rocket-propelled rounds around for quite some time...google 'gyrojet.'
but this is certainly a step in the 'bolter' direction...the only problem i can see with the weapon is its weight, but that is only because of the robust design.
cant wait to get my hands on one...maybe they'll let me carry one around in my Paladin...for close encounters ;)
 

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Would it weigh more than a GPMG with 400 belt 7.62 rounds? Brith Squaddies still carry these things around Afghanistan, although they are being replaced by the Minimi.
Only 400? You lucky bastards. Issue for US troops with machine guns is 600.
That's why my knees are toast, frankly.
 

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Thats a pretty powerful gun. But to be honest with you, the XMS assault rifle will probably over take it. I can't see it being phased into regular troop platoons for sometime.
 

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You think it's worth mounting on a humvee over a MG for city warfare?
No, if it's only advantage over a regular shotgun is that it can fire explosive rounds there is already the MK19 to do that and over a greater range with more explosive payload. And the MK19 can fire canister rounds with again a greater payload than a twelve gauge.
 

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Most of those weapons are sapport weapons, as such not so much bolters as a special weapon to upgrade a squad.
 

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As for its bolteryness, sure in its implementation it's a special upgrade weapon, but in what it actually *is* and what it *does* it is basically a boltgun (12 gauge is .72 caliber, bolters are .75, pretty close).

It is, for all intents and purposes, a proto-bolter.
 
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