[DkMiBuch]

Hello guys,

The 5th power in the Ectomancy/Fulmination discipline (Ghost Storm/Magnetokinesis), with which you can move a friendly unit 18", reads:

".. all models in the unit count as having moved in the Movement phase for the purposes of shooting weapons in the Shooting phase"

What if the target unit was a vehicle? Would it then count as having moved combat speed or cruising speed?

I hope someone can help me clarify this.
Thanks!

 

[Fallen]

I would assume, that it would be cruising.

That's just a guess, no rhyme or reason to choosing.

 

[scscofield]

I would say the same due to the assault restriction, passengers in assault vehicles that move at cruising speed can not disembark and assault.

 

[ntaw]

Since the power allows you to move up to 18", I'd say that it's relative to how far your vehicle moved still. 6" or less is counts as Combat Speed and 7" or more counts as Cruising Speed. In these weird situations I like to use as much of the rules as I can to sort it out and that's all we really have offered by the BRB.

Ultimately it's a vaguely written rule for vehicles with no RAW answer, so if you're gunning for it chat it up with your opponent pre-match to sort it out. If you can't sort it out roll off or play it one way in one game and the other in the next. See if it even makes a huge difference.

EDIT: just saw Sco's post, they can't disembark in the Psychic Phase only the Movement Phase so no worries there.

 

[scscofield]

I was using it as an example of why I was thinking it counted as cruising. The cruising speed move makes it so you can not assault, so I am saying if it corresponds with the restriction of not assaulting in this power. ::shrugs:: Mainly just a ruling that my local group would likely run with, your area groups may choose a different route. Hooray GW vague writing strikes again!

 

[ntaw]

Hooray GW vague writing strikes again!

Straight up. When I play new people I basically have a list of rules conundrums I bring up if I see certain elements at play while we go over each other's forces just so we're on the same page. For example, some people are absolutely shocked if I mention that blast templates hit everything under them in multi-level terrain elements where others insist that is how it's played. Good to air GW's dirty laundry pre-match so when it comes to gaming you can focus of rolling dice and having fun.

 

[DkMiBuch]

If it ever gets faq'ed, I'm guessing it'll count as cruising speed.

I just really liked the idea of shooting 3 Vindicators up the board and firing their apocalyptic blast, which as I'm writing it, does sound a little OP

 

[Fallen]

Just do it with Fast vindicators.

 

[ntaw]

:laugh: who would have thought, BA can do something better than SM.

 

[DkMiBuch]

Just do it with Fast vindicators.

I play CSM, so unfortunately that's not a possibility

 

[Fallen]

That is indeed a problem..that a few traitor BA can fix.

 

[ntaw]

Fer sure. Allied Detachment of whatever HQ and Troop you like, Vindicator squadron for Heavy Support. You could even take a Libbynaught modeled as a Tzeentch psyker-Dreadnought and Cassor as some ridiculous Khorne Dreadnought monstrosity/extra insane Helbrute.