[chaosfaction]

I found this encyclopedia site which has a lot of info about warhammer and warhammer 40k. While going through the list of Primarchs I noticed that the list was missing two primarchs. It was missing the primarch of blood ravens and the primarch of another legion. Can anyone tell who are the two missing primarchs.

 

[cccp]

NO. its a piece of fluff that no one knows the answer to.

For some reason, after the heresy it was noticed that the 2nd and 11th leigon were missing, expunged from all records. This is the reason 2 of the primarchs are missing.

as for blood ravens, they arent first founding and dont have a primarch. they were created just for the DOW video game.

 

[chaosfaction]

Thanks for the info.

 

[Greyskullscrusade]

But, if you read the books, the blood ravens have no idea where they came from, founding chapter,first master ect. they could be a founding legion.

 

[Jacobite]

Its generally assumed however that the Blood Ravens are a second founding chapter of either the Blood Angels or the Raven Gaurd. Games Workshop has left the 2nd and 11th legions spots open to encourage fans to create their own Legions and Primarchs without having to take parts from 1st founding chapters.

 

[Jezlad]

Sweet. We can blag our Legion as one of these then and create a Primarch!

 

[Jacobite]

Yea, I am the only person who knew that?

I thought everybody knew about it?

 

[jigplums]

I knew that, and i thought it was really pretty obvious. Same as in World of darkness they always leave stuff uncharted so as not to totally dispell any chance of creativity

 

[Galahad]

I'd say the Blood Ravens are *not* founded from BA since they don't show evidence of red thirst or black rage.

chances are they're from Ultras stock. Ultramarines have the sluttiest geneseed in the Empire.

 

[cccp]

blood ravens are a total shit chapter. they look shit and their fluff is shit too.

 

[Alpharius]

Of course another rumored origin is that they are of THOUSAND SONS geneseed.

Not sure how or why that would be permitted by the Powers That Be in the Imperium though...

 

[Galahad]

Care to elaborate on that shit?

Incidentally, I think I might update my sig to include that line about ultramarine geneseed...I'm rather proud of that one. but then you end up looking like a dick if you quote yourself. Ah well

 

[Jacobite]

I agree with you about the blood angels thing, that what people assue though because of the name. My money is on Ultramarines stock mixed with a small amount of Raven Gaurd.

And yes the Ultramarines do have the sluttest geneseed in the Imperuim. They make Britany Spears look like a Sister of Battle.

There you go you can quote that and not look like a dick. :wink:

 

[Sei 'fir]

what bout the lamentors they erased the red thirst from ttheir geneseed of course it possibly could have saved them from being ripped apart tyranids

but back to the point yeah i think its to inspire either that or there are some sort of xenos corrupted space marines that the inquisition wiped from memory :?:

C'tan corrupted space marines...

 

[Galahad]

I wasn;t aware the Lamentors were blood angels. In any event, if it's something that could have been replicated, the other chapters would have done it's insanely dangerous.

As for C'tan...I'd see a more recent chapter falling to them maybe, but as I recall, the C'tan were out of action for eons until just very recently, and those records were about first founding chapters.

 

[Sei 'fir]

yeah spose but what bout the void dragon remember theres speculation that ferrus manus had a encounter with it so it could have been awake remember we don't know much about the outsideror the void dragon

 

[cccp]

ferrus mannus killed the wyrm thing (note NOT ctan) and thats the reason he could regenerate. that has nothing to do with a ctan dedicated chapter as that was dead long before marines were widespread.

it is very unlikely that a marine chapter would fall to ctan, it is more likely that they would be used by the deciever for his gain. they vary rarely fall to schaos, but then again chaos has a seductive side that the necronyr do not have.

 

[Pyromanic Tendencies]

Yeah, but there's a rumor that the Wyrm was a C'tan consturct (it's described as having a skin of metal that could bend and twist like skin *Cough*necrodremis*Cough*)

 

[cccp]

i mentioned that in my previous post albeit not very well. it was something infected with the necron virus. that does not mean that it is a ctan trying to eat chapters of space marine now is it?

to but this thread back on subject, the primarchs of the 2nd and 11th leigons are lost. this may be to create creativity, but a sensible player will know to not to mess with those 2 leigons fluff anyway. that would be considered fluff suicide. it is just another thing in the 40k universe that gw wil not release to keep us guessing. in order to discuss the primarchs without derailing a thread, i have started a thread in the fluff section

im pretty sure that the original question has been answered fully, now this thread is dragging on to a slow and painful death. please, leave it alone and let it die.

 

[Galahad]

Just because the topic of conversation has drifted to another subject doesn't mean it isn't a valid thread anymore.

Edit: By the way, I think we need a standardized moderator title, or at least prefix of some sort. Makes it easier to tell when a real mod is posting vs someone trying to be one.