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UPDATE. These are the finished pictures:




Hi all,
This may not be the most original ambition in 40K, but I would really like to start making some buildings from the Dawn of War computer games. Scouting around internet it seems that most people go for the Infantry Command or the Space Marine Chapel Barracks. Although both of these are nice, it would mean building another huge building, and I would like to go for some smaller buildings. So I decided on the Plasma Generator. So on to Sketchup. These are my first sketches. More news and info as I start cutting the foamboard.

























 

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Rats, I just (re)discoverd the difference between modeling in 3D and cutting it out in foamboard. The generator is too slim (the top bar is 1cm broad) ah well time to start scaling :)
 

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Hey, this looks like a great project idea. It is never a bad idea to add a block or something representing a normal model for scale.

I'm interested to see how this develops!
 

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So I started cutting and gluing yesterday and discovered quite early on that a) my sizing was off and b) I was almost out of 0,5 mm foamboard. Well I still had plenty of 0,3 mm and I decided to just make the model about twice as broad.

I started by cutting the base of the main generator and the 'concrete' spines.


The second step was cutting the cooling ribs from 0,1 mm plasticard (yes I recycle old plates used for my airbrushing course).


I proceeded to make the required fifteen cuts in the base of the generator, intending to stick the plasticard cooling ribs in. The attempt to do this in 0,3mm foamboard ended in a mess of broken foamboard, so I used a bit of the scarce 0,5 mm foamboard....which also ended in a mess of broken foamboard (pictured right)


As this was quite obviously not the way to go, I switched tack and decided to alternate glueing 0,3mm foamboard strips with 1mm plasticard ribs in a new base for the generator. I started with half a foamboard strip to get the spacing of the first rib right with my drawing.


Now this, in my very humble opinion, actually works. By smearing some glue to the top of the housing I actually managed to keep it all more or less in order and upright (glue stained fingers and frequently shifting plates not pictured).


This went on at a reasonable pace until I wanted to start with the third row. As even my untrained eyes quickly spotted that there was no way to fit it. This is a bit strange. Every set of ribs consists of five 1mm plasticards ribs and five 3mm bits of foamboard (actually six, but the first and the last are 1,5 mm). So that would give me three ribs at 6 cm and two concrete spines at 1 cm (0,5mm each). The entire base is 8 cm big, so it should all fit. But somehow it doesn't. Personally I blame Tzeentch, but it probably has more to do with some space lost due to the thickness of glue (or a massive measurement/calculating error on my side).

Anyways I decided to close of the third compartment with some plasticard (will make this look better when the glue is truly dry.


As you can see I also started working with the decorations on the side. The power cables are made from oversized drinking straws. I also had to change the scale here a bit.

The final bit I'm working on is the platform on the back, in the new oversized state it is slightly too big for my taste. And I'm working on the boxes that will go on the right (also slightly too big, and these have been glued together badly, so I will probably redo these (or decorate them).



Next step, finding a clear plastic tube with a diameter of around 2 cm. Then making a wall (the easy part), more power cables, and a base (the very easy part). Will keep posting as it progresses.

Oh as to the scaling. The wall is intended to be about four centimeters high. That makes it big enough to hide a dreadnought behind it. The roof of the generator should be big enough to give a 5 man squad an elevated position for shooting en the base should not exceed sizes of around 8 cm by 16 cm so it doesn't dominate the table. If this works out ok, I might make around a total of three. But lets get this one finished first :)
 

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No, I'm thinking of airbrushing a base coat of boltgun metal equivalent in and then start weathering with some washes, glazes and maybe do a bit of drybrushing. The other option is making it black and then painting tin-bits in as far as it goes, followed by weathering. I will see when the model is ready for painting.
 

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They're not that fantastic, but painting before assembly tends to ruin the paint (because scratch build assembly is not an exact science). Besides an airbrush can reach far, the eye will not be able to see much between the ribs and -quite pleasantly - the fins will be overheated for extended periods, so if they turn out to be black in the center it will be ok too. We'll see.
 

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Okay this is going to be a long, picture heavy post as I've been spending more time working on the new scenery (and on Space Marine, the computer game) then on actually updating this forum post. Please don't TL:DR as there are quite a few fascinating mistakes some Nurglesque spillage and maybe one or two good things ahead. I'll try to keep my text short anyway.
As I left off last time I was about to cut the rear platform to size because I thought it too big. Before doing that I decided to go to the local store with random cheap stuff (is there a nice English word for these kind of stores?) and found these bottles of 'Glitter Glue' if only my Eldar army was unfinished...

Having paid the serious price of 1 euro (1,31 dollar) for the entire set of bottles and out of unpainted Eldar I emptied the bottles in a plastic cup. I always use a plastic bag or cup while building scenery or modeling to throw my trash in. It keeps the workplace (relatively) clean and makes it easier to find little pieces that 'blast off' as you apply a knife. Anyway glue for Nurgle!


So now to cut the bottles apart, and then cut them to glass cylinders on the back of plasma generator thingies:



And the finished result. I placed one of my Catachan Heavy Flamer people on top to give a bit more sense of scale to the entire model so far:


Now the next part was redoing the big boxes on the side. I tried building it with foamboard, but the scale is so small that all attempts to properly cover the sides ended up making the boxes extremely ugly. In the end I went for plasticard and plastic glue. On the upside, I finally am able to cut plasticard without the stuff flying out from under my metal ruler (and over the table as I grasp my bleeding hand and curse (but I'm getting carried away here, back to the box)):


In the end this assemblage was finished and glued to the model. This is one of those 'it looks better in real life' shots.


On to the heavy duty power cables (also known as drinking straws). I learned quite early on that plastic glue does not work on drinking straws. In the end I used the transparent hobby glue/universal glue I also use on my foamboard. It is very cheap, it gives a quick 'in place dry' (after which your stuff stays in place, but you can move it without destroying anything) and the end result is tough enough for gaming (in my experience). It also works on drinking straws.


So now my plasma generator is looking like the end product should look.


As the next step, I wanted to use some water effects like stuff in the clear tanks, with some blue paint mixed in to give it that Plasma generated electricity feeling. I used a two part slow drying epoxy with some Ice Blue and Regal Blue mixed in. I put this mixture in a spare bit of plastic glue bottle fitted in kneading erase (from the same cheap stuff emporium).

It started out looking at least a bit interesting:


And ended up an unmitigated, leaky, sticky glob that is crying for the garbage can. If only I could move this mess!!! Is that grandfather Nurgle I hear laughing his burbling diseased laugh?


Meanwhile the wall section (which I forgot to photograph being build) is drying nicely in its first plaster cast (to give it that concrete-vibe). In the background a sticky mess:


On a side note, this is one of my plaster/glue/other horrendous stuff brushes. I picked it up in a bundle of ten (guess in what store). It is so incredibly shoddy, it is hardly good enough to smear plaster on walls with. Every time I see it, I feel a deep sense of love for my real brushes. So if you ever have a chance to pick a set like these up, they are worth it (if only for comedy value).


In the end I got carried away and made and beveled my MDF base as well. I also gave the main model a first coating of Gesso/PVA mixture (with a thank you at Kreuger for suggesting that to me on my last big build). The mixture is yellow because I add colorant to it (so I can see where I have already been on my white model). Next shot a Gesso'ed generator with a painted Catachan on top and a beveled base below:


So now it is on to taking off some annoying bits that are sticking out (for want of a better term), applying a second coating of Gesso and doing some interesting things with the base. Then a Chaos Black basecoat and finally we will see how painting goes. The most difficult question for me right now is what to do with the plastic cylinders. I don't want to paint them, I most definitively won't go for the epoxy filling and I'm too old school for led's. Ah well we'll see if inspiration hits (in other words, suggestion are welcome :). Will be back later with another miles long post :)
 

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Last night I got around to basing the base and, cut off some blemishes and finally gave the model a second layer of Gesso and PVA mixture. So it looks like I can actually start grounding today.



 

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I spent yesterday afternoon and evening applying layers with my airbrush to the model (and to some Basilisks that have been waiting for their camo for quite some time). I spent quite a lot of time masking the cooling ribs. This is the stage right before the masking tape came into the equation.


I also painted the yellow/black striping on the roof and found a nice technique (imho) for the glowing blue plasma vats on the back of the machine. I also finished the basic paint job on the base so I could glue my model to it. I also covered the top of the wall with glue as it had an awful tendency to chip bits of plaster off. Hopefully this will stem the tide.

So now my building is at this stage and ready to be weathered as soon as the PVA glue dries. Man I hate waiting for PVA glue to dry....


For comparison here is the image I've been using for reference.


As my table is more or less jungle based the ground and weathering will be mud and plants, not snow. But it is a nice one to leave of with. Now dry paint, dry!

(By the way, is anyone reading this thread at all?)
 

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Thanks for the replies. As the glue was 'dry enough' I got a chance to weather and flock the model. I love weathering, so here goes.

First off the wall. First with Vallejo Sepia Wash then Vallejo black wash (these two are available in extra large sizes, which is very handy if you build a lot of scenery). After these washes I followed with a bit of Thrakka Green and finally with a glaze made from Catachan Green. I pool both the washes and the glaze at the bottom of the wall and then use an extra large brush to pull the wet paint up.


After the wall it was time to ink a lot of crevasses and all the other bits of random plasticard I glued on to give some texture. I also gave all the pipes/power cables a black wash to make them stand out from the rest of the generator. I could have use a different color, but I rather like the way the blue of the plasma tanks captures the eye and I didn't want to ruin that effect by adding more color. I did use some Tin Bitz followed by an edge highlight of Dwarf Bronze to make some patches on the power cables indicating the paint has peeled off (the paint did actually peel of here and there and this looks a lot better then the original orange of the straws used :)).


So then it was a matter of waiting another hour for the washes to dry. Getting more PVA and the flock. I used some dead grass around the piping as this give an illusion that something is happening there that kills the grass (heat). Most of the rest of the base got covered in the regular grass I use at bases. You can see it on the base of the Catachan included for size once more. I also added some clumping to the wall to give it a real jungle feel. Oh and just to brag: I love my freehanded 31 on top (and the airbrushed striping) will definitely do that again.





So here it is, another project done. Now the question is do I continue with the Dawn of War copies, might be fun to make a base to fill the table with. Or do I go for one of the other project ideas I have. One thing is sure, I will need to buy more 5mm foamboard, more 3mm foamboard and more blades (foamboard eats blades).

To all thanks for watching and commenting and PM'ing. It really makes building more fun if others are watching.
Cheers,
Macro
 

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that is a pretty awesome job, and I like the fact that on a battlefield it would break up all the buildings and such with something unique, that's something you hardly see in 40k now-a-days really good job *Yoink*

but yeah like Kurio said I would really have to fight the erge to put LEDs in it haha (plus have the know-how to wire it all up in the first place)
 

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Wow Macro, that looks great!

I think the only part I'm not on-board with is the vines . . . They're looking kinda fuzzy.


I think I would have gone a different way with the plasma tubes too. You got this done so fast, by the time I would have responded about them last week you were done!

I think I would have smeared the inside of the tubes with the resin you mixed up. Enough to form ripples inside the tubes. Then painted parts of the inside of the tubes.

And I'm glad the terrain gesso/glue mixture is serving you well!
 
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