[Phrazer]

Morning chaps, we had this come up last night in a Necron Vs Imperial Guard game. Id bought an Aegis Def Line and parked a mass of heavy artillery about 1.5-2 inches behind it. In my mind I was behind the line for the 4+ save, but deliberatly not in base to base contact so I couldnt get assaulted by an enemy walking up to the line and fighting at the wall (even though I was a vehicle).
Now he declared an assault on me with a Cat command barge but in order to get into base to base with me he should of had to cross the Def line, but being a CCB he was totally unable to place his model in the gap between the Def line and my Manticore.
He argued that if he was in base contact with the Def line he could hit the Manticore. I argued that I agreed that would be the case if I was in base contact with the def line but I clearly was a good distance behind it, but still close enough to prevent him from placing his model.
We obviously didnt fall out and eventually decided to play it his way (ironically the Manticore somehow survived the assault and got to fire again before it died!!) but I was just wondering if this had happened to anyone else?
I hope I made the explanation clear, if not just let me know and ill try again
Many thanks

 

[Creon]

I don't think he has to cross the line to get to you. Dangerous terrain test. Other than that, he's there if his movement allows him to get there. Wobbly Model Syndrome allows him to "remain" at the ADL so he doesn't damage the model, but otherwise would be assaulting merrily. He doesn't have too "place" his base at all if he has the movement to get BTB. My question is how you got 25% of a Manticore concealed in an Aegis line when not against it.

 

[neferhet]

"Units charging an enemy that is behind a barricade or wall count as
charging through difficult terrain."

"Wobbly Model Syndrome
Sometimes you may find that a particular piece of terrain makes it hard to put
a model exactly where you want. If you delicately balance it in place, it is very
likely to fall as soon as somebody nudges the table, leaving your beautifully
painted miniature damaged or even broken. In cases like this, we find it is
perfectly acceptable to leave the model in a safer position, as long as both
players have agreed and know its ‘actual’ location. If, later on, your enemy is
considering shooting at the model, you will have to hold it back in the proper
place so he can check line of sight."

Directly from BRB.
He charges trough difficult terrain, then, as per whobbly model syndrome, you place it somwhere and state that "he is there". Then you fight as usual.

 

[ntaw]

I've often removed a section of the ADL for the time being and replaced it after the victorious models moved on. Dangerous Terrain/Wobbly Model Syndrome all day on this one.

 

[Phrazer]

Lovely, thanks guys!!

 

[venomlust]

You were also right about the rules for charging units in base contact with the wall. If your vehicles were touching the wall, he would only have to be in base contact with the wall. Otherwise, he'd still have to get to you.

 

[neferhet]

You were also right about the rules for charging units in base contact with the wall. If your vehicles were touching the wall, he would only have to be in base contact with the wall. Otherwise, he'd still have to get to you.

would still count as charging trough terrain, mind you.

 

[venomlust]

Yep, but as that was already mentioned twice... no sense being triple redundant!

 

[neferhet]

yep, but as that was already mentioned twice... No sense being triple redundant!

Redundancy for the Boureocracy god!!

 

[venomlust]

You must file the proper form.

 

[neferhet]

You must file the proper form.

Moar files, MOAR FORMS!! :crazy::crazy:

 

[Creon]

Red Ink for The Bureaucracy God.

Please submit your punch cards in triplicate. Do not Bend, Fold, Spindle, or Mutilate.

 

[Mossy Toes]

In triplicate.