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Hi guys i was wondering if any of you had read Horus rising and looked closely at the picture on the inside cover of the book, because if i ain't mistaken theres a space marine with the markings XI. Which ofcourse is the number of one of missing legions. I wanted to just see if you thought the same or could it be squad markings.

Also theres a badge beneath it but i can't make it out clearly anyone have any thoughts?
 

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i meant to look last night and got distracted by my cat.

its a tricky one this either way they do it. they have gone to great lengths to avoid these two legions, but i can't see how they can get through this series without mentioning them.

i highly doubt that during the whole of the heresy (and the crusade for that matter) these two missing legions had no impact upon anyone or anything of significance other than possibly each other (since it is stated that fully half the legions flocked to the warmaster, by definition one legion is heretic and one loyalist)

so the inclusion of a picture of a XI legion marine could be a sutble insight into their intention to reveal.

or on the other hand the artist f***ed up.
 

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I was reading the 58 page thread on the black library forums about them phil sibbling whose an artist for black library believes the whole lost two legion conspiracy does have a proper story behind it now and GW ain't just written them off. The conclusion they came to is that the only way the two legions could be hidden is if the primarchs were found before Horus was, but after the rest is just theories since they couldn't of took part in the rest of the crusade otherwise both the current SM and CSM would mention them.
 

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I'm pretty sure its just a squad or company marking as the marine in question has the same color armour and trim as the marines around him and also the number is quite small etc. And theres only one of him.
 

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Interesting to be sure lol even if it isn't a missing legion member I still think that the horus heresy series will reveal all! Which would be useful as I've been dieing to find out. But it has beens stated by GW that they took them out so players could come to their own conclusions for there own home grown rules=D
 

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I think the 2 missing Legions are supposed to be from 2 Primarchs who were never found. Like Cerrakoth said GW specifically left them out for people to have fun with on their own. In Dawn of War the Blood Ravens make the statement of "for the Forgotten Primarch!" or something along those lines. What I would like is permission to use the creature design rules to make a Primarch for use with a Space Marine army. :)
 

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There are rules for Primarchs=] cant remember where, but the two Primarchs I think the main theory behind them is that chaos found them first, but GW definatly stated they implanted them for you to draw you own conclusions, I liek the idea of the blood ravens being connected as it gives them a root which atm they don't have
 

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It's been slowly hinted the Blood Ravens are tied to the Thousand Sons, pehaps a loyalist splinter?

I've heard a lot about the legions, even one guy who's convinced one of them is called the Purifiers and has a 10k army of them. I would say that if the books are correct, then XI's incubation capsule is cracked by Horus during False Gods, so at least II is supposedly OK. I'm not sure what effect XI's capsule beeing cracked would have on the primarch, but I woul imagine Horus figured XI would be a threat to him. A long time ago there was mentioned a SM chapter called the Iron Hearts, whose Primarch was Rubinek. Rubinek was pretty much encased in Dreadnought armor at all times, so I figure he must have been XI, and suffered at the hands of Horus, or II sustained injuries even a Primarch couldn't regenerate.

Note that all of this has been shot down by GW, most of it was in Rogue Trader and a VERY old SM codex.
 

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Horus was dreaming or hillusinating when he was in the emperors palace, its impossible for chaos to actually travel that far back in time otherwise they could simply kill the emperor and they would be able to conquer the universe. Horus was still in the temple the whole time.
 
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