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Being cheap like I am. I decided that the money needed for a proper waagh was way too much for me.

To that end, I decided that I had more time than money and decided to make myself a paper waagh. Whyle my fellow players initially scoffed at my "Tube" army. They have since come to realize that because of it, I have practically everything in the Ork Codex, then some.

I decided I would share the files with you guys here. Enjoy!
File Folder: http://www.mediafire.com/?2iz1ibjbghluh

All files are in .pptx format. (Microsoft PowerPoint 2007+) You can download the entire zip file, or merely the individual files you want.

Please keep in mind that all figures and models are designed to be simply Print>Cut>Glue>Play. The vehicles ARE NOT designed to mimic the look of a WWG style ork model. They will be recognizable for what they are, but they will not win any beauty contests. This also means that the models are "smooth." The models have textures printed on the pattern. Unfortunately this means unless you have photoshop/ppt skills, you will not be able to add in alot of customization unless you glue on spare parts. However, if you are on the cheap like I am, it works and works well.

Included:

Ork Paper Army: Includes tube proxies of every ork figurine in the codex. Base size when rolled and glued should approximate the standard base size. I use tubes instead of paper cutouts because tubes allow for better LOS (I.E. 3d tube vs 2d cutout.) Heights may not be perfect, but the tubes are perfectly usable, just remember if you can see the tube, you can see the model.

Big Gunz: This file contains what amounts to a big metal looking cannon. The original shape WAS an enlarged cannon from a paper galleon. This shape has been re-skinned to give it a metallic look. Its not the prettiest figure on the table, but it will get the job done.

Truck: Yes, its the Ork Trukk! This figure will resemble a flat-bed truck when complete. It actually has enough room to hold 10 25mm tube figures. Not quite the 12 That its supposed to.

Battlewagon: This is probably the most complex of the paper models. Its body comes in 3 sections. And has parts for 3 variations of deffrolla. There is a simple steam-rolla, a 3-rotary saw blade -rolla, and a combine thresher style rolla.

Tank: This model is a fairly simple looking tank. Its mildly comical looking with a gun a bit too big for it, but works well as a Looted Wagon, or as grot tanks.

[/b]Pulsa Rokkit This monstrosity stands over a foot high when complete. Its designed to be free standing, as such, it does not have the launcher as seen in the book. Oddly enough (pure coincidence) it seems to fit pretty well if layed into a Trukk.

While not in this set of downloads, I am also working on an Ork Stompa. :)

I'm redesigning my Deff Dread and my Killa Kans as they just weren't working. I have yet to figure out a decent way to do Bikes, Buggies, or Trakks.

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Here are Pics for my Paper Waagh!
Unfortunately some of the pics are out of focus, but here goes!

Vehicle Samples:

All at Once:


My Looted Wagon/Grot Tank



Big Gunzz (i'm Currently sitting at 9 of these things)


Trukk


The BattleWagonz




Pulsa Rokkit


Tube Boyz



What do you guys think?

PS the Tubes are now in color. But the original print offs were in BW for ink purposes.
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Hey, TP has only been used on ONE mock up. And that was on a spore pod for the Nids. If you haven't you should really try it. Lay on a square of TP and then hit it with a spray bottle. Creates a VERY cool skin texture. You just have to paint it after the fact.

Of course, I'm sure you'd turn a nose up at that too, not everyone can be as L337 as you are.
If a homemade model looked good or even closely resembled what it was supposed to be, I do not have a problem with it. I have played against lego dreadnoughts, self cast resin models and even a guy who made all of his tanks (9 of them, all Leman Russ') from wood. They were done to a point that it was hard to tell his tanks from those of an actual store bought model. Creativity is free and limitless, you are just cheap and lazy.
you are just cheap and lazy.
I thank you for the compliment!

I'm more concerned about playing. If I can PLAY without spending 100s of dollars, then I'll do that. As it is I've saved myself over 500 EASILY by a rough guestimation if I were to buy everything new.
I thank you for the compliment!

I'm more concerned about playing. If I can PLAY without spending 100s of dollars, then I'll do that. As it is I've saved myself over 500 EASILY by a rough guestimation if I were to buy everything new.
Being lazy is nothing to be proud of, just so you know...

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There are so many more ways to achieve better results than what you are doing though. Cast your own models, it can be super cheap and will be so much better looking. Wood, plastic card stock, foamboard and many other materials that are not only cheap but would produce a much better result. Those paper orks are just beyond my comprehension of being acceptable, it is just too much. The problem is that it just adds no flavor or any appeal to a game that is just as much about being visually attractive as it is about the actual rules and following them. i am sure you have seen a piece of shit car drive by right? Why settle for that rusty, smoking piece of shit car when you could put a bit of real effort into it and have a car that you don't need to wear a bag over your head while your driving?
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Being lazy is nothing to be proud of, just so you know...
Oh, I think it quite depends on where the focus of one's laziness really is. My interests really lie beyond the mini wargame realm. If its something I'm REALLY interested in I'll put in some work.

On the other hand, that's not to say I didn't put some actual work into those models. They are quicker than perhaps the standard model, but they are still not the quickest and easiest thing to put together.

Each BW takes about 2 hours to do. Each Truck about an hour. Each Big Gun takes around 30-45 minutes. I don't recall how long the Rokkit took, somewhere around 2-3 hours. Its taken me a couple hours to work on my Stompa. And it'll probably take me a while on my Killa Kans and my Def Dreads.

I want something that I can PLAY with, not something I can put on display. I've looked at the paper models that are out there for Lehman russ's and such. They require way too much work for something I'm going to simply push around a table. But your priorities are different than mine. I don't care about playing the #*!$ measuring contest on who has the best painted model. I'm just looking to play.

I am sorry if my models don't measure up to your quality standards, but I THINK i'll get over it. If not there's always a 5th of Jack and a bottle of sleeping pills.
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Dude, you should seriously change your username to Paper Waaagh!. I swear this is one of the most epic things ever. Also, love how you're sticking it to all the haters. I'd rep you, but then I did that already. :p

Katie D

EDIT: Here's someone else's idea of paperhammer. I actually prefer your tube idea as it gives them some dimension.
Remember guys, modeling is just *one* aspect of the hobby. Paper Waagh, as he is now officially named (No, you don't get a say in it. :p), obviously doesn't like the modeling aspect. There is *nothing* wrong about that, and the methods he is using here allow him to enjoy the other two, especially gaming, more. If you wouldn't play against this army, I'd say that you're just too caught up in your high opinion of your own models, and the time you've spent on them, to ever think that maybe, just maybe, other people don't enjoy it as much as you do.
There are so many more ways to achieve better results than what you are doing though. Cast your own models, it can be super cheap and will be so much better looking. Wood, plastic card stock, foamboard and many other materials that are not only cheap but would produce a much better result. Those paper orks are just beyond my comprehension of being acceptable, it is just too much. The problem is that it just adds no flavor or any appeal to a game that is just as much about being visually attractive as it is about the actual rules and following them. i am sure you have seen a piece of shit car drive by right? Why settle for that rusty, smoking piece of shit car when you could put a bit of real effort into it and have a car that you don't need to wear a bag over your head while your driving?
Dude, I gave up caring about peoples negative opinions of me YEARS ago. If the beat up old jalopy RAN WITHOUT PROBLEMS then I'd drive it, even if it was primer colored, and had a trash bag covering the broken back drivers side window. I mean seriously, you are getting bent out of shape for my part of a hobby not being cool enough for you. Lets face it, its a game that many people play in their basement. ALOT OF THE WORLD looks down on it.

Seriously, judging people by their stuff was supposed to be left behind in high school.
...really guys? What's with the haterade in here?

First, you know... if all you want out of the game is the game, then that's fine. And this is a perfectly reasonable way to go about doing it if you don't feel the urge to drop hundreds of dollars on it. Would I find it a little tiring sometimes? Maybe. I certainly wouldn't mind the cardstock vehicles. But ultimately, it's not really my call, now, is it?

I'd be aware that your opponents may or may not put up with cardstock models indefinitely. One of the things that's always set Warhammer apart from other games is the hobby focus. As someone who paints miniatures to pay the majority of his rent, I'm of the opinion that you're honestly missing out by not at least giving the hobby end a go.

Either way, there's no excuse for people coming in here and flaming you over it, Itbih. If you're getting what you want out of the game and the hobby, then ultimately, that's what's important. If not (and I do seriously suspect that at some point, other folks will want to play against real models), then adjust what you do.

On the subject of buying models... the simple fact of the matter is that if you really wanted, you could play 40k using pennies as markers for infantry units. "But what about true line of sight, Horus?" I hear you cry? Measure an inch up from the base. Most models are about an inch tall. Problem solved. While you might say you "have" to have the models, that's ultimately just because Games Workshop's business is selling you plastic spacemen.

Oh, and everyone that's flamed Ityb in here... stop being douchebags.
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@ Itybih2ku (or should I say Paper Waaagh!). I don't really see what the big problem is. I fyour cool with it and your opponents cool with it,m then you fine.
I mean, I recently got into Battlefleet Gothic, (which is awesome btw), but I dont own any figures, so I proxied them.





I understand that people are entitled to their opinions, but if they're going to just bitch about something and not enjoy the game, then they're not worth your time.
Granted painting and constructing models is fun, but not everyone enjoys it as much as others (something this guy at my local GW should learn. I've played him about 3-4 times and i've never seen him with a painted miniature).

Remember, it's all but a game built for your enjoyment. If your having fun, then your doing it right.
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Dude, you should seriously change your username to Paper Waaagh!. I swear this is one of the most epic things ever. Also, love how you're sticking it to all the haters. I'd rep you, but then I did that already. :p

Katie D

EDIT: Here's someone else's idea of paperhammer. I actually prefer your tube idea as it gives them some dimension.
Thanks Katie! I might just change my name :)

Oh I did quite a bit of looking for paper models before I started my own program. I saw that very picture. I'll admit his nids look much better than a tube army, but they completely screw up LOS for the game. Thats why I settled on Tubes.

The paper models I've downloaded from other people either come with poor instructions, or are designed to mimic the GH models down to even adding a cut out for each rivet on the tank. I wanted something to quickly be able to put together to play.

Lets face it, paper models are easily destroyed. However, I could probably replace my entire collection of models in about 20 hours of work with a rough guestimate, using only about 5-10 bucks of material.

Thats not bad considering this is my collection of models:

3 battle wagons
6 Trukks
9 Big Gunzz (stand-ins for any of Lobba, ZZap or Kannon)
1 Pulsa Rokkit
1 Stompa (Design not ready to publish)
2 Looted Wagons
3 Killa Kans (design not ready to publish)
1 Deff Dread (Design not ready to publish)

15 Burna Boys
15 Kommandos
30 Lootas
15 Storm Boys
10 Nobs
12 Mega Nobs
15 Tank Bustas
6 Meks
6 Pain boys
6 Runt-herds
6 Squigs
20 Grots
1 War Boss
1 Big Mek
1 Weirdboy/Warphead
1 Gazthul Thrakka
1Mad Doc Grotznik
1 Boss Snikrot
1 Boss Zagstruk
15 Flash Gitz
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Seriously, judging people by their stuff was supposed to be left behind in high school.
Quoted! :eek:k: I hate highschool and all it's kindergarten type predjuice.
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@ Itybih2ku (or should I say Paper Waaagh!). I don't really see what the big problem is. I fyour cool with it and your opponents cool with it,m then you fine.
I mean, I recently got into Battlefleet Gothic, (which is awesome btw), but I dont own any figures, so I proxied them.





I understand that people are entitled to their opinions, but if they're going to just bitch about something and not enjoy the game, then they're not worth your time.
Granted painting and constructing models is fun, but not everyone enjoys it as much as others (something this guy at my local GW should learn. I've played him about 3-4 times and i've never seen him with a painted miniature).

Remember, it's all but a game built for your enjoyment. If your having fun, then your doing it right.
:victory:
I recommend you take a look at the following game from I don't know how its models stack up in size or anything else compared to battlefleet gothic, but if it does line up, then you could probably get some quality ships from the set.

I built both fleets a while back and ate up about 100 bucks in ink. (Stupid ink jet).

It was quite a bit of work, but it was worth it in the end. (Besides, its hard to paper proxy models that are already paper.)

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Remember guys, modeling is just *one* aspect of the hobby. Paper Waagh, as he is now officially named (No, you don't get a say in it. :p), obviously doesn't like the modeling aspect. There is *nothing* wrong about that, and the methods he is using here allow him to enjoy the other two, especially gaming, more. If you wouldn't play against this army, I'd say that you're just too caught up in your high opinion of your own models, and the time you've spent on them, to ever think that maybe, just maybe, other people don't enjoy it as much as you do.
thanks for the - rep :laugh:

sorry but i have to disagree, Modeling is not just an "aspect" you can chuck away, he still needs game pieces and these paper tubes are dare i say it "models" and in his own words he is too cheap to buy the actual models so proxy's an army with paper.
If this was just a case of he couldnt afford to be in the hobby and was looking for a way to have a playable army while slowly collecting the Orks,then i would be the first to congratulate him for his ingenuity.

If some guy showed up week in week out to your club with this paper ork army would you honestly keep playing him ?bearing in mind he has said its because he wont fork out for the models, he can but he wont?



On one hand I like the ingenuity, every new kind of army model/paintjob I see even if I hate it interests me - I like to see how different people choose to represent their plastic space men. And you sir have definitely come up with a novel approach and gone to town with it.

However, I personally would not enjoy a game against this.

For me the game is not just the rules (if it was I sure as hell wouldn't play 40k, but that is another discussion) for me the game is the whole.
I like to play using well constructed terrain and scenery, with crafted models and against people out to use tactics andarmy variety - take one aspect away from this and I feel cheated.

For example, I played my second (my first was the GW demo in store) game of WFB at the weekend. We had the GW grass mat and a few fantasy trees we had around, but we didn't have enough fantasy scenery to set up a board - so I had to reach for my terrain-to-be box and choose some materials.
I actually found myself looking at the "temple", made from aerosol cans and a cork mat, and didn't enjoy the game as much as I would have if I had made some "real" scenery to play with.

I can see why you would want to make a cheap paper army, and if your play group is happy with it who am I to question. But on a personal level I wouldn't be happy with it as a permanent fixture.
I just need all of the elements in place to make my game fully enjoyable.

Part of that is the plastic models
Part of that is the table I play on
Part of it is the rules
Part of it the people
Part of it is even the randomness of the dice

Substituting any of these things to me would make my game feel cheated as they all form the hobby which I enjoy.

That said, you are happy with it and so are your play group so what is there to discuss :)
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great idea there, but i see it from a different point of view, haveing paper armys are a great way to introduce kids to the game, give em a paper army each, they can play a few games to get used to the rules and the way the army works, and if they like it and want to stick with the game, you can then start spending cash on proper models. ive know too many parents spend cash of 40K/WHFB for there kids, only for the kid to get bored with it and just dump the models (unless i can get there first that is..............lol).
so for introduceing someone to the game, there great.
And dont forget when both WH and 40K came out, they had cut out paper figures in the books.
If you don't care for or want other people's opinions on your models, why did you post them on a forum that you know you will get instant feedback from?
Unless, of course, you just want everybody to backslap you saying "What a great idea! Why didn't someone else think of that before?"

Oh, and somebody did think of it before.
Games Workshop.
Rogue Trader had cut out counters in the back of the book for both the Space Marine and Ork armies that appeared in the Scenario that came in the original rulebook.


Your stuff is shit.
EDIT: Here's someone else's idea of paperhammer. I actually prefer your tube idea as it gives them some dimension.
I'm sorry, but I have to ask... are you on drugs or any other kind of medication?
You prefer rolled-up paper printed Boyz to this!? You find a sorry excuse for a trukk prettier than this!? ...How!?
I thought there was a strict anti-flaming rule one this website. OK, you dont like it fine. Dont comment. Theres no need to be all 'you shit. I hate you for doing this. You killed the game.' So lets stop with all that. Its been said before, and I'm making that call again.
On the other hand, I do agree that modeling and painting are cruical parts of the hobby, and you are definaly misssing out if you dont own a few minis.

I think this thread is just going to de-rail into a endless debate on proxy-ing so lets just leave with the saying: If you havent anything nice to say, dont say anything at all.
I suppose all power to you then. I wish you luck with your projects. I would be more comfortable playing you if they were being used until the real thing, but I think we have enough levity here.

Happy hunting.
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