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Hey, I've got about 1000 points of unpainted Empire atm but I can't decide what to paint them. I've painted some in the past as a trial but never been fully happy. Another problem is that I'm a bit of a fluff head so I have to like the background as well.

I'm not an awesome painter, pretty good but I want something that looks nice as well as being simple to paint as well as having a nice background. I was considering A nice Reikland army as I never seem to see them played, I'm thinking this is due to the fact they are bleached bone and in my case have no idea how to make sure it had a nice clean colour.

I've painted red before and it's not come out very well so I want to stay clear of that. Does anyone have any suggestions on what to do and how to do it.
 

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Oh well I'll get that heraldry book sometime and have a look at them all, will still need help with making sure I get a clear colour rather than blotchy and "see through" :)
 

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What's the best way to paint bleached bone? Black under coat, then successive coats of light browns? until finally bleached bone?
 

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why not make your own scheme up? i was toying with the idea of an Empire army before I settled on Wood Elves purely as I thought I would make a cool scheme up, but at the end of the day, find a scheme you like the look of, or a force that exemplifies the characteristics you like in an army. good luck!
 

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Thats about the size of it.
Have a look at the Foundation paints, Tausept Ochre, Iydian Darksun and Denib Stone for possible bases and mixing into Bleached Bone.
Awesome thanks, never had those paints around when I was younger :)

why not make your own scheme up? i was toying with the idea of an Empire army before I settled on Wood Elves purely as I thought I would make a cool scheme up, but at the end of the day, find a scheme you like the look of, or a force that exemplifies the characteristics you like in an army. good luck!
I like the established back ground behind the different provinces in the Empire, I'm a rper at heart so although thinking up you're own scheme and background is cool, I'm one of those who just prefers to stick to canon :)
 

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I was always told by my local GW that it's best to base coat with black as with white the colours become really vivid.
 

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Hi Words,

An Empire army painting wise, having done one myself, should consider the following.

1). If your going for an established province, I would stay away from complex color schemes if I had my time over again I would certainly do so. Empire are the be all and end all of rank and file troops. Remember for 200 points your putting down a unit of 20 core troops... thats not a lot points wise, but its a big time sink.

2). Pick a state with two contrasting colors that look reasonable by themselves. Blue and Red, Black and Yellow, or even a single color like Nuln.. pure Black. The reason behind this is that you can then do units in a single color with a different colored plume and they will still look great on the table against the traditional square pattern of a multi colored unit in the same two basic colors.

3). Consider Unit fillers for massed troops. I use balsa wood cut thinly and then done into groups of 100 x 20mm and use them with 5-6 figures with a small action scene or something on them to sit in the middle of large troop blocks. As you will quickly find out it will save you time. Ideas can include troopers with a shot orc or even a campsite. Use of 40mm bases can even help if used creatively. (just dont over do it.) I use a unit filler of 10 when I field 40 in a unit for a unit of 20 or 15 I use a filler for 4. Otherwise you end up with too much unit filler and its hard to remove ranks.

When picking a scheme also consider if your an RPGER consider the type of force you want your Empire to be. I love militia style forces with a few elites so my army is based off a poor province, but you may wish to go incredibly artillery heavy... then go Nuln.

Also remember that you should or could if you wish do a unit in a completely different color.. like GREEN GREATSWORDS in an army of black troops and then give the unit a history of why it wears green uniforms. (In my case its black and white for a special detachment unit).

Hope this helps.

Lexi.
 

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at some time i want to do a bret or empire army and mine is going to be based of the older german colour scheme yellow and black. duetschland!

just because i really like the yellow black (that and i decided all my armies will have a yellowish theme)
 

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Hi Words,

An Empire army painting wise, having done one myself, should consider the following.

1). If your going for an established province, I would stay away from complex color schemes if I had my time over again I would certainly do so. Empire are the be all and end all of rank and file troops. Remember for 200 points your putting down a unit of 20 core troops... thats not a lot points wise, but its a big time sink.

2). Pick a state with two contrasting colors that look reasonable by themselves. Blue and Red, Black and Yellow, or even a single color like Nuln.. pure Black. The reason behind this is that you can then do units in a single color with a different colored plume and they will still look great on the table against the traditional square pattern of a multi colored unit in the same two basic colors.

3). Consider Unit fillers for massed troops. I use balsa wood cut thinly and then done into groups of 100 x 20mm and use them with 5-6 figures with a small action scene or something on them to sit in the middle of large troop blocks. As you will quickly find out it will save you time. Ideas can include troopers with a shot orc or even a campsite. Use of 40mm bases can even help if used creatively. (just dont over do it.) I use a unit filler of 10 when I field 40 in a unit for a unit of 20 or 15 I use a filler for 4. Otherwise you end up with too much unit filler and its hard to remove ranks.

When picking a scheme also consider if your an RPGER consider the type of force you want your Empire to be. I love militia style forces with a few elites so my army is based off a poor province, but you may wish to go incredibly artillery heavy... then go Nuln.

Also remember that you should or could if you wish do a unit in a completely different color.. like GREEN GREATSWORDS in an army of black troops and then give the unit a history of why it wears green uniforms. (In my case its black and white for a special detachment unit).

Hope this helps.

Lexi.
It helps loads, I think I'll stay clear of doing a Reikland army as I see your point. I still wanna stay clear of red though so right now I'm considering even Nordland or Averland.

I'm nearly at the end of Sword of Justice with Ludwig Schwarzhelm which has a lot about Averland in it and I recently finished Reiksguard which has a bit about Nordland, so I'll see which one I favor more after :)
 

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I'm leaning towards Averland because it has an unusual background but has a colour scheme that contrasts well but is easy to do. I wanna throw some ogres in the army to which I think will look good with the same Averland colours on.
 
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