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I was debating about creating my own thread for my review, but I thought I'd just put it in here. If you're looking for the original, it can be found on my blog: Pacific Rim ? Film Review | Bane of Kings' Writing Blog.

So, as you can probably tell if you were following me on twitter, or saw my review of Angel [Buffy the Vampire Slayer S1x07] yesterday, that I went and saw Pacific Rim at the cinema. I didn’t think I’d be able to see it because of the hot weather, but decided that I might as well – and went in and saw it anyway. As it turned out, I wasn’t disappointed. Sure, whilst the film may be flawed – the acting is mostly poor (aside from a few notable exceptions), and it’s pretty simple – it really does what it says on the tin. You don’t go to see a film with giant aliens fighting giant robots for its good acting. You go and see it because of giant aliens fighting giant robots. And on that basis, del Toro didn’t dissapoint, creating a fun, action packed blockbuster that’s easily the most fun movie of 2013 so far. (Although, to be fair – I only have seen three, Iron Man 3, Man of Steel and this, but with The World’s End hitting next week it might not keep it’s title for long.)

Idris Elba is probably the best actor of the lot here, performing very well as Stacker Pentecost, the General. As pretty much the only female in the whole film, Rinko Kikuchi’s Mako Mori gets plenty of screentime, but her character comes off as cartoonish in many places with an exaggerated performance. and also – something else that took me halfway through the film, it seems like Pacific Rim has a member of Torchwood working with them. Or at least, Burn Gorman anyway, who plays Gottlieb. (Owen Harper in Torchwood). He also starred in The Dark Knight Rises as well, it’s worth pointing out. However, As the film’s lead, Charlie Hunnam is strong Raleigh Becket – delivering a fairly solid role as the character. However, There’s also a few stereotypical, cliched characters – the arrogant Australian, and the lack of character development harms the film a bit – but it’s still very much worth going to see for the pure, awesome spectacle of the epic fight scenes between the Jaegers and Kaijuu.

The film benefits from amazing visuals, with beautifully created special effects. This adds a whole new layer to the film, and whilst I only saw it in 2D, I can imagine how impressive that it would look in 3D. The plot is also pretty simple, and whilst nothing about it may be original – aside from the fact that it’s not a sequel, prequel e.t.c, like I mentioned above – it’s still very fun. Whilst you may think you could get tired of Jaegers vs Kaijuu action over the course of two hours, Del Toro allows for an ‘evolving’ Kaijuu that provide some entertaining action sequences, and it isn’t long before the humans are forced to desperate mesaures. On the basis of this film, I’m really looking forward to the upcoming Justice League Dark, or Dark Universe film, that’s said to be in the works, even if the characters I don’t really know much about, like Constantine, Zatanna etc.

You can also feel that Del Toro has really put some passion and effort behind this film. It’s atmospheric, vivid and very entertaining, and you shouldn’t really find yourself bogged down trying to make your head around the plot because it is pretty simple, even if the ending is kind of a deus ex machina style. If You’re in for the monsters vs. robot fights, and that’s what you’ll get. As a result, I really enjoyed this film – and can’t wait for its DVD release. Whilst it’s far from perfect, I still think it deserves a high rating. It’s probably going to end up being in my Top 5 films of the year at this rate (that is assuming I’ll get around to watching more than five – but I should, because The World’s End, Elysium, Thor: The Dark World and The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug are all high on my to-see list, and I’m sure something else will come up and surprise me as well.

VERDICT: 4/5
 

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I couldn't help thinking to myself "the Masters are some kind of alien race inhabitating the Webway, the Kaiju are daemons, and Jaeger tech is what eventually leads to the creation of Titans" when the movie was over. :grin:

In all seriousness though, it was a great flick. Trust del Toro to come up with such an original concept. The opening Jaeger/Kaiju battle had me on the edge of my seat, as did the 'Drift' scene in Mako's memories. I did think the ending was a bit anticlimactic, and I wish we could have learned more/seen more of the other Jaegers and their pilots, but all in all I'll be seeing it again as soon as it hits the dollar show.
 

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I know but spanner pointed out a lot of bad things and I was saying it was at least better than transformers :p The movie is really good though, if you're wondering whether to see it I'd say you should.
 

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I can't even find words to describe this movie.
I was bummed when I realized I was in the last showing of the day because I wanted to see it again RIGHT FUCKING NOW.

Oh my god!
There were moments I cringed


But it was amazing none the less.
And oh my god, the little girl who played the japanese chick in the flashbacks? They had to have been torturing her puppy offscreen or something...there's now ay a child that small should have been projecting such tangible terror and awe without someone offscreen terrorizing her <chuckles>

Just...damn.
 

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I dunno I kind of liked those little bits, it kind of tied it to the world more and the brains made sense to due to how large the Kaiju are.
 

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Except the theory of dinosaurs having two brains was discredited decades ago as utter nonsense, and we *know* where Dinosaurs came from, we have fossil evidence of their evolution and their extinction.
And they were here for MILLIONS of years.
They couldn't have been some kind of preliminary colony force. If the planet's atmosphere wasn't right they wouldn't have stuck around for millions of years...and if they were that successful (they were the dominant life form for, again, *millions* of years), they would have actually colonized the place and either we;d have fossil evidence of their masters or we wouldn't be here at all.

It's not like dinosaurs appeared out of nowhere and then vanished without a trace a few years later.

That whole bit could have been left out entirely and the film still would have been excellent.
In fact, even with that nonsense left in, it was still excellent.
Just that "Dinosaurs have two brains" bullshit took me out of the story for a minute.
 

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Also, my brother and I had an amusing conversation afterwards. We figured with as close as we are we;d make awesome Jaeger pilots...if they could make us a cool enough mech.

Almost immediately we settled on "Autobot Brony" for the Jaeger codename...I'm picturing a quad or centaur design with wheels on the feet and a head mounted beam cannon. Why? Because we both agreed it would be awesome.
 

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Actually, given enough time there wouldn't even be a fossil record since the tectonic recycling process of crustal materials (where stuff eventually gets convected down into deep magma) gives a maximum reliable record time of ~200 million years for oceanic basalts (whereas continental rocks can be up to a couple of billion years if the vagaries of tectonics haven't recycled that particular section of the planet's crust). So, past a certain date in the deep past we wouldn't necessarily have any means of working out what was there at all.
 

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Yeah, except they said they were here when the dinosaurs were...which is well within the fossil record.
I'm a little unclear as to whether they were supposed to be the dinosaurs, or if they were supposed to have killed the dinosaurs. I took it to mean that they were the dinosaurs, which made the 'two brains, just like dinosaurs' thing make a tiny bit more sense later (even if it was retarded), others took it to mean that they were sent to kill the dinosaurs.

Which, again, is stupid because we know what killed the dinosaurs.

QIf they'd left the bloody dinosaurs out of it I'd be 100% content with the movie. but as it stands, 98% ain't bad.
 

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The dinosaurs were here, not the masters, the dinosaurs where mini kaiju who scouted earth but found the land didn't support silicon base lifeforms who fed off ammonia. So the masters closed the rift and let the planet develop and become polluted and then returned.
 

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So...it took them 165 MILLION years to figure out the planet wasn't good enough?
Hell, if all it took was some industrial pollution then they could have done it themselves in that time.

Meanwhile, like I said, we have fossil records charting from when the first vertebrates crawled out of the ocean and evolved into dinosaurs and other critters. And we have fossil evidence charting their evolution into birds and the like...and of course records of the great extinction.

Dinosaurs are not a mystery that needs to be explained away as aliens. In fact, saying they were aliens requires more explanation than you could ever provide in a 2 hour movie.

Meanwhile, if this alien civilization has survived for over 230 MILLION years and has dimension-crossing and genetically engineered Kaiju for at least that long, then what do they want a piddly little rock like this one for? Dimensional travel, the technology to create and control giant monsters...they could have any world.

Don't get me wrong, I loved the movie, but in no way will that "Kaiju were dinosaurs" thing ever not be fucking retarded.
 

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I'm just trying to explain what they were suggesting. I know it's hard to acknowledge but it is sci fi and you have to make exceptions to the real world, maybe the kaiju masters used time travel a long with the dimension crossing, that would explain the time difference and why they basically let the dinosaurs do their own thing until they became extinct.
 

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I was not sure how I was going to like the movie. I like Transformers, I like Godzilla and Gamera, I even watched Voltron reruns and Robotech. I really like the Appleseed series so naturally I thought that a live action movie about huge robots would be right up my alley.

I rather watch movies by myself or with a few friends than in a theater. So when asked if I wanted to go to a private screening of the movie I thought this would be perfect without the noise of the theater people but still the huge screen what better way to see it?

For some reason however and I cannot put my finger on what it is I was disappointed with the movie. I will buy the BR when it comes out but that is more because I am a collector of movies than anything else but given the choice to go see it again even at another private screening I would decline.

EDIT: And to add even more possibility to liking this movie instead of thinking of the monsters as aliens I actually thought of them as demons because hey what does our universal gathering point surround itself around, chaos, demons? Because the monsters really reminded me of the Demon that Gandolf fought in the LOTR movies where he sort of died. Even putting that spin on it...
 

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I'm just trying to explain what they were suggesting. I know it's hard to acknowledge but it is sci fi and you have to make exceptions to the real world,
I get the whole 'willing suspension of disbelief' concept, but there are limits. It has to at least be plausible.
I can accept that we can make dozens of 250ft giant stompy robots in only a few years
I can accept that an oil tanker would make an acceptable giant club and not simply crumple the moment it's picked up and disintegrate as soon as it's swung
I can accept that the monsters were engineered in such a way that their bones can support their incomprehensible mass and that their lungs and circulatory systems are somehow able to handle the tremendous loads of just pumping oxygenated blood through thousands of tons of kaiju flesh, let alone when jumping and fighting and all the other high intensity stuff.

That's the sort of stuff willing suspension of disbelief is for.
But when they say something utterly retarded, that does *nothing* to enhance the storyline and only leads to further, crazier stretches in order to explain it, that was a bad move.

There's no way to explain Dinosaurs as Kaiju without it being crazy and stupid.

maybe the kaiju masters used time travel a long with the dimension crossing, that would explain the time difference and why they basically let the dinosaurs do their own thing until they became extinct.
If they had time travel then there's pretty much no way to beat them since they could just travel back to the day we barely managed to win and send four more kaiju through. They could travel to the industrial revolution when the air as almost as bad and we had no means of defense.

Meanwhile, even trying to suggest that the dinosaurs were all Kaiu just begs further, crazier questions.
Did they unleash millions of tiny lungfish to crawl out of the surf hoping that over a few million years they'd evolve into the dominant species?

Assuming the best case scenario and maybe dinosaurs evolved on their own and in the Jurassic period or something some large apex predators were introduced as kaiju...they have a set timescale that they can send stuff through. There's no way they could introduce enough to have a viable breeding population to spread them across the planet and compete with the local life forms.

I get what you;re trying to do, but there really is no way to defend it. Every possible explanation just makes it more ridiculous.

The movie would have been better without those two pointless lines.

But like I said, even with them it's still an amazing movie.
 

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...whether they were supposed to be the dinosaurs, or if they were supposed to have killed the dinosaurs.
Actually, the way it was delivered in the movie (and I was watching out for it after reading this thread) it seemed to be inferring that they thought the Kaiju had killled the dinosaurs - the actual line was "First it was the dinosaurs, now it's us".
 

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Which is slightly less ridiculous than them actually being the dinosaurs (though they imply that they were dinosaurs later by mentioning the preposterous two-brain theory), but still stupid.

It would take a lot of Kaiju to personally murder every dinosaur on the planet, and we would have fossils of giant kaiju unless none of them died in the process and they all went back in the rift.

Meanwhile the time it would have taken to murder every dinosaur would have been more than enough time for their masters to figure out it was a waste of time because the air was wrong.

Also, you know, we know how the dinosaurs died.

Slightly less silly but still, for me at least, a pointless addition that only harms the movie.
 
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