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I plan on collecting a 40K and Fantasy army real soon, however there are so many things that I don't know about, and it seem so overwhelming. I don't live near a game workshop store, so it make the process much more complicated than it has to be. I wish I had the conveniences of GW staff helping me.

I guess I will start off first with what tools do I need? What about extra tools? What tools should I get form GW and what tools should I buy from a hobby shop? What is foundation paint, regular paint, wash paint, dry brushing? When do you drybrush, when do you wash, when do you use foundation paint and when do you use regular paint? How do you paint metal miniatures? How do you paint camo? How do you do transfers?

What are conversion kits? What is buying second hand? I know a lot of people tell me they can get a whole set of space marine for half the price by knowing how to convert and buying bits or using left over bits from previous purchase? How does one know this, is it through experience? What is the differences between resin vs plastic model?

Why are custom base not painted? Seem more a hassle if it the type of color you want (e.g. moon base, desert sand). How do you created your own terrain and what is plasticard? How do you make river for your base, terrain, etc... How do you make a fortress, castle, and various other buildings?

How do you strip paint. Can you strip paint from used ebay model, do used miniature lose some of it design?

Edit: What is varnish and what is water down paint? Do you soak the miniature in water?

I'm just so overwhelm:headbutt:


P.S sorry English is not my first language.
 

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first things first welcome to heresy-online,
now to answer most of your questions in one go, if you go to the modelling and painting section there are tutorials that can help you with some of what your asking, also if u need advice you can go to your local games workshop store the staff would gladly help you, the also do beginners courses aswell where they will teach you the basics, and some of hobby is also learning through experience

for tools the basics you will need, is;
craft knife of some sort, clippers, files, plastic glue, paint brush paints,

you dont necessarily have to buy most of it from games workshop if you hunt around you maybe able to find the tools u need cheaper, as for paints i recommend you buy GW paints for now if your a beginner untill you gain more experience, then you can start thinking about buying paints from other companys,
 

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I plan on collecting a 40K and Fantasy army real soon, however there are so many things that I don't know about, and it seem so overwhelming. I don't live near a game workshop store, so it make the process much more complicated than it has to be. I wish I had the conveniences of GW staff helping me.

I guess I will start off first with what tools do I need? What about extra tools? What tools should I get form GW and what tools should I buy from a hobby shop? What is foundation paint, regular paint, wash paint, dry brushing? When do you drybrush, when do you wash, when do you use foundation paint and when do you use regular paint? How do you paint metal miniatures? How do you paint camo? How do you do transfers?

As far as tools go, the poster above me has that pretty much wrapped up. Pretty much any tool you need, you can get at a hobby store (like Hobby Lobby here in the US, so when I say hobby store, I dont mean a GW store).
Foundation paints are a heavy pigment paint designed to cover the model in one coat evenly. Very usefull for base coats.
Regular paint: Used to just paint the model basically. To give it the color scheme that you want/the look that you want.
Wash: Used to bring out the highlights and/or darken up the creases in the model to make it more dramatic/look more real.
Camo: There is a VERY good tut in the tutorial section that will help you with a step by step on this one so I'll let you look it up.
Transfers: The directions are on the transfers themselves. Basically, get it wet for about 30sec then press it to the model and peel.


What are conversion kits? What is buying second hand? I know a lot of people tell me they can get a whole set of space marine for half the price by knowing how to convert and buying bits or using left over bits from previous purchase? How does one know this, is it through experience? What is the differences between resin vs plastic model?

Conversion kits: Used to make a basic model into something else. I.E. Turn basic space marines into jump pack marines or a tank into a different kind of tank.
Buying second hand: If you bought something on EBAY or off another person, that is second hand.
To make an army out of bits, you have to have alot of bits to mix/match to make what you want. Check out EBAY and look at all the bits that are being sold. Last time I looked, there were alot and they were pretty cheap. (just dont bid against me :p ). It does come with experience to do this, but it's not really that hard and you'll realize this when you first sit down and start putting models together.
Resin/plastic: It's just what they are made of basically. Some prefer one of the other or even metal over both. You'll find that some people hate metal mini's and plastic ones but love resin. It's really all to suit your OWN taste.


Why are custom base not painted? Seem more a hassle if it the type of color you want (e.g. moon base, desert sand). How do you created your own terrain and what is plasticard? How do you make river for your base, terrain, etc... How do you make a fortress, castle, and various other buildings?

Custom Bases: You talking about the ones you order or ones people make themselves? Either way, they should be painted and it's usually the buyer that paints them (or the person who made it)
Terrain: There are a serious amount of tutorials in the tutorial section of step by step ways to make your own terrain. Basically, it all comes down to one word: Imagination. If you can imagine it, you can build it. Might not look the best the first time you try it but as you pratice, you'll get better. Just go to the tutorial section and look over the tuts there until you find what you want to make. They'll have step by step instructions on how they made it, so it teaches you how to make it.


How do you strip paint. Can you strip paint from used ebay model, do used miniature lose some of it design?

Strip paint: Use simple green or break fluid. Works really well (again, there is a tutorial on this in the tutorial section).
Ebay models: Yes, you can strip the paint from them if you want. If you bought them, they are yours to do what you wish with.


Edit: What is varnish and what is water down paint? Do you soak the miniature in water?

Varnish: It's what's used to "seal" the paint on. Basically it protects the model's paint scheme from the every day wear and tear of use.
Water down paint: Makes it thinner so it flow's into the recess of the model easier.
Water soaking: It's a good idea to clean off any metal models that you get with water and a small brush (such as a tooth brush) to make sure that you get all that chalky residue that is sometimes on them off of it before you paint. Honestly, you can run any mini through some water to make sure it's clean before hand.


I'm just so overwhelm:headbutt:


P.S sorry English is not my first language.



P.S. Welcome to Heresy and Warhammer. Glad to have you aboard!
 

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I think Loki answered nearly all your questions, although he forgot this one:
"What is dry brushing?"

Dry Brushing is bruching the miniature with a paintbrush with VERY small amounts of paint, so you only paint the edges of the miniature. Very useful when painting metal or doing highlights.
And before you even ask: Highlights is the opposite of washes, with a wash you paint the recesses of a model with darker tones than the base coat, with highlights you paint the edges in brighter tones. It makes the model more realistic and beautiful.

One of the best ways to learn all the painting techniques is to be helped by someone. If the nearest GW store is 2 hours away, don't you have a friend playing Warhammer too?

Good luck!

And welcome to Heresy Online!
 

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@Loki

First off just wanted to say thanks for answering most of my question. It certainly feel less overwhelming now. I guess I should take it slow and learn little by little. I tend to want to know everything even though it not possible in every situation.

When I look at the painting section, I notice to make the figure look good, I not only need a lot of paint color but I also need a lot of foundation and washes paint as well. How much did you spent on paint itself? I know what transfer is but it seem from youtube video you need a few supply to make the transfer as smooth and round as possible.

I thought varnish was to make the model more glossy? There are so many different kind of varnish color, which one do you suggest I get?

What does thinning the paint mean? Like do you just put the model in water so the paint get thin?

@Irae

I don't have any friends that play warhammer. They all call them "toys" and with Starcraft 2 out now, that all they been doing. Thanks for the clarification of drybrushing. I look up drybrushing, it an amazing technique. I have done it before just didn't realize it was call dry brushing.

@Turel2

Thanks!
 

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Nothing wrong with wanting to know everything man. Alot of it you have to learn as you go. It's one thing to read about it on here or in a book, but to truly know how to do it, you have to practice it yourself.
How many paints/wash's you buy all depends on how you want to paint the mini. I have 18 different paint colors and 2 wash's. But I'm also painting 3 different army's right now (IG, CSM, Ork) so I kinda needed that many. So it's all in how you want to paint them. Pick your color scheme first, then buy the paints.
There's a few different kinds of varnish and again, it's what you want. Do you want it to have that glossy or shiny look? Or do you just want it to be varnished without the gloss look? Me personally, I went with the non glossy look. Only because it didnt fit what I was going for.
Thinning the paint just means that your making the consistency of the paint down to a lower level. By adding water to the paint your making it more runny so it runs into the recess's of the model easier. Good thing to do for base coats and wash's.
 

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Little tip, never buy hobby tools and supplies, even paints, from GW. They will use your own wallet to rip you a new ass simply because there might be some more change that could fall out.
 

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Nothing wrong with wanting to know everything man. Alot of it you have to learn as you go. It's one thing to read about it on here or in a book, but to truly know how to do it, you have to practice it yourself.
How many paints/wash's you buy all depends on how you want to paint the mini. I have 18 different paint colors and 2 wash's. But I'm also painting 3 different army's right now (IG, CSM, Ork) so I kinda needed that many. So it's all in how you want to paint them. Pick your color scheme first, then buy the paints.
There's a few different kinds of varnish and again, it's what you want. Do you want it to have that glossy or shiny look? Or do you just want it to be varnished without the gloss look? Me personally, I went with the non glossy look. Only because it didnt fit what I was going for.
Thinning the paint just means that your making the consistency of the paint down to a lower level. By adding water to the paint your making it more runny so it runs into the recess's of the model easier. Good thing to do for base coats and wash's.
@Loki

Do you like GW paint? I'm thinking of either Coat'D Arm or Reaper Pro series.
 

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I use both to be honest. GW paints are nice, but a bit more expensive (about $1 more where I buy paints from). Out of the paints I have, half are GW and half are Reaper. But, I didnt care about price at the time. I looked for the colors that I wanted and bought them. If I'm cash strapped, I try to buy the cheaper paints (reaper), but usually if I'm going to buy something I've planned ahead and have enough to go with whatever paint has the color I want.
 
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