I think that the tyranids will prob win. Lets be honest here, the Nids are made for this exact purpose to exterminate all life, while as the orks only purpose is to well, make war.
The Tyranids will evolve rapidly just like all other times and become better and better at fighting the orks, while as the orcs, sadly cant evolve nearly as rapidly as the nids. Nids will become better at killing rocs kill them off then continue to attack the rest of the universe, except this time.. theyre as hard as orc.

Just my thoughts on what will happen ^_^

 

I also think tyranids, you've got to remember that orcs are just as likely to fight themselves as they are the tyranids.

 

Even Orks aren't that stupid. What would happen would be simple, a load of gaunts and load of boyz would leg it at each other, wipe each other out. This process would be repeated until the numbers of gaunts and boyz was reduced to the point where both sides could figure out who was leaving the other.

The Hive tyrant would send in the gargoyles to kill the Warboss, only for them to run into a bunch of stormboyz, while Warriors and Carnifexes went against any number of the more elite Orks. The warboss would up the stakes however, and a bunch of Kommandos would pop up and take out the Hive Tyrant. With him dead, some mad bikers would tear up the remaining Tyranids.

 

i think it will remain as a stalemate. the orks' sheer brutality, hate and cunning more than make up for what the tyranids can evolve into methinks. remember the nids are hive mind controlled while the orks have a seperate conscience each, i know there is some kind of advantage in that but i cant really think of one at the moment. plus all they need is a pool of water and some heat and there you go instant ork. they can deal the most damage and take the most out of any race and when they have technology, even if scavenged they still kick ass. i mean who else wields a frigging cleaver and can kill a space marine with it? i suppose they have taken nid hides and claws and the like and made weapons out of them to better combat the nids. who knows, all i know is that whoever comes out on top is going to be hard as hell to get rid of.

 

Which ever one gains more victories.

Kind of a stupid way to put it, but I can't think of a better way. Tyranis can only gain biomass via victory, and Orcs can only insure gestation and growth through victories. If the Tryanid win a conflict, the biomass is stripped and the Orcs have no where to spawn. If the Orcs win, the Tyranids gain no additional resources. If the Tyranid win, they gain additional biomass and evolutionary steps towards anti-Orc goals. If the Orcs win, they become tougher and gain numbers.

The only way one will topple the other over is by gaining more momentum over the other. Sort of like a Sumo match, one needs the leverage to stay inside the ring but at the same time either gain more of a push against the other or trick him to become off balance. Unfortunately, one only thinks about eating while the other only thinks about punching... we're in for a long match.

 

I'm with Revelations on this one. It is going to be a long meat grinding slugfest between these two. It really will come down to who can keep rolling up victories. Because when the nids win they get more raw resources to make more nids. THe orks win so they gain experience fighting nids plus any orks killed will spawn more orks. Orks will only fight other orks when there is no one else to fight. So as long as the nids are around someone will yell waagh and old grudges will be forgotten and the orks will join together to fight the nids.

I think the deciding factor will be if the nids can get more victories and keep the raw resources necessary to continue fighting the orks. If the orks keep winning and the nids aren't able to replenish their supply of raw biomass then the orks will slowly grind them down. I think it could go either way because there are also who ork galaxies that have not been explored and larger orks out there than what the imperium has encountered so who knows.
Nid-ork fights are always close matches where both sides kill a lot of each other.

 

Heres an intersting question.
Would all the spores that are fired down onto the planet in the first stages of a nid invasion somehow toxicate the whole planet so that the orcs when newly spawned wont be as 'good' as before?

 

I'm going to go with 'nids because it seems like they have better numbers for the long grinding slug fest. I mean there are shit loads of orks, but the nid's have the numbers of entire consumed galaxies behind them.

 

kind of... see They don't know for sure. But there might be. This conflict without the ability to create more tyranids without victories is actually in my opinion more of a disadvantage for the tyranids without as the person who just put that quote just said. If theres not another hive fleet i really wouldn't be worried. Orks have huge numbers. HUGE, and in a funny way... better technology. The fact that the Orks have been invaded has probably united most of the orks together. So i think the Orks might have the advantage.

 

Tyranids

Tyranids... here's why:
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Strategic_Collective

 

Tyranids... here's why:
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Strategic_Collective

Made this account for the sole purpose of resurrecting this thread, and saying this:

An older piece of fluff, states that probes, meant to circle the universe (as far as I recall) and sent by Techpriests 14.000 years ago into intergalactic space, are to this day returning mostly Orkish transmissions.

 

Dude that fricken crazy!!!

 

it is. (sorry to end this thread so absolutely)

 

Still though. If a great Ork warlord was powerful enough he could possibly be able to rally all the orks together. hypothetical of course

 

ahhha no competition

Well okay here's my well rather funny look on this.Here's my way of looking at it okay so let's just say the nids and the orks are going at it blood,and bullets all of a sudden one of the mekboys says to himself hmmm I wish I had a little pet like these guys then he looks at one of the gretchin slave chains grabs a genestealer by the neck picks him up and ties the chain around it.Then he grabs a weirdboy and tells him "make dis one a good little boy" the weirdboy zzaps the bug with some kind of mind power and suddenly it starts attacking other nids.Ten thousand years later orks are riding termaguants and flyingon winged warriors and warboss now sits atop a winged hive tryant and now pai boys are now giving orks nid army and legs and upgrading acid and other nasty things with there weopons and now long story short the orks made the nids there pets and or slaves and now control the hive mind because they threw a radio in it and now tell it what to do:mrgreen:

 

Well okay here's my well rather funny look on this.Here's my way of looking at it okay so let's just say the nids and the orks are going at it blood,and bullets all of a sudden one of the mekboys says to himself hmmm I wish I had a little pet like these guys then he looks at one of the gretchin slave chains grabs a genestealer by the neck picks him up and ties the chain around it.Then he grabs a weirdboy and tells him "make dis one a good little boy" the weirdboy zzaps the bug with some kind of mind power and suddenly it starts attacking other nids.Ten thousand years later orks are riding termaguants and flyingon winged warriors and warboss now sits atop a winged hive tryant and now pai boys are now giving orks nid army and legs and upgrading acid and other nasty things with there weopons and now long story short the orks made the nids there pets and or slaves and now control the hive mind because they threw a radio in it and now tell it what to do:mrgreen:

:shok:....

 

Clearly the orks are going to win because they have Nob Bikers.

 

Checkmate. *chuckles*

 

My opinion on this has always seemed to favor the nids, but I gdon't think it's as definite as some people make it out to be. If the Tyranids win an early huge battle the orks are screwed, but if the Orks get together in large numbers, they will be very hard to take down. I've always wondered if eventually the Hive Mind would give this place up and move to another place that's easier to take down.

 

I'm going to say Orks, because an Ork prosthetic is just a dead Ork's arm stapled to the stump.

-Dirge

 

well remember Ghazghkull nearly wiped out armageddon with just one planet of orks(not even the whole planet). imagine if he rallied two planets of orks armageddon would have been decimated lol. if it did ever come to a huge conflict between orks and nids, i definitely say Thraka and a few planets of orks would roll over the nids.

 

well since nids eat biomass to make more nids AND evolve they might actualy gain the ability to regrow themselves like the orks do...shroom nids 0.o

on a side note nob bikers arnt THAT strong vs nids genestealers will eat em up

 

YES!!! FINALLY A POST FROM A NID PLAYER!!!! :good:

 

nids.

nuff said. =)

 

crap... sorry!

 

actually if you had read the thread from the beginning you would have realized that i was actually talking about a real war going on in the books and such... did you not know that there was actually a great war between the orks and the nids? Read your codex.

 

I believe I've read somewhere that the Hive Fleets are actually just Splinter Fleets of some gigantic Tyranid fleet somewhere in space, but I'm not sure...

So I'll go with Tyranids, sheer numbers.

 

well it all really depends who can grow faster orks or nids. which ever can reproduce the fastest will win this war

 

if we could get our teens to not use condoms, we too could compete in this universal domination. God darn parents!

 

Personally I think the Orks would win, the fact that they have so many numbers and are so insanely inventive that thy'd find a way to kill 'nids pretty effectively (accidental or not), Nids should move on to another galaxy, hehe it would be prtty funny seeing jedi getting raped by them

 

Im putting my money on Orks

Lets not forget that some of the really big hive fleets have been splintered by only a couple chapters of space marines.

Lets compare. Hive fleet Behemoth was given the big FU by Ultramarines and sent packing, same thing on Ichar IV with Leviathon. Yet Armageddon, had everyone and their grandmother fighting in it, and there are orks still on that planet.

So when I think about it, a massive Nid invasion would just ignite one of the biggest Waaghs, but the orks would never truly win, since once the major engagements were won, and the nids were diminishing the orks would turn on each other again.

Also lets not forget looted Carnifexs !