Warhammer 40k Forum and Wargaming Forums banner
1 - 4 of 4 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
80 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
So i am trying to come up with a couple viable and competitive 1750 eldar lists these are my first 3 attempts. Some feed back on any or all of them would be appreciated.


MECHDAR1
1 Eldrad Ulthran @ 210 pts

6 Fire Dragons @ 216 pts
1 Wave Serpent (TL Missile Launchers)

6 Fire Dragons @ 216 pts
1 Wave Serpent (TL Missile Launchers)

9 Dire Avengers @ 307 pts
1 Dire Avenger Exarch ( Bladestorm ; 2 Avenger SC)
1 Wave Serpent (Spirit Stones; Shuriken Cannon; TL Bright Lances)

9 Dire Avengers @ 297 pts
1 Dire Avenger Exarch ( Bladestorm ; 2 Avenger SC)
1 Wave Serpent (Spirit Stones; TL Bright Lances)

6 Guardian Jetbike Squadron @ 202 pts (Shuriken Cannon x2)
1 Warlock ( Embolden )

1 Fire Prism @ 150 pts (Holo-Field)

1 Fire Prism @ 150 pts (Holo-Field)


MECHDAR2

1 Eldrad Ulthran @ 210 pts

1 Farseer @ 120 pts ( Doom ; Guide ; Spirit Stones)

9 Dire Avengers @ 297 pts
1 Dire Avenger Exarch ( Bladestorm ; 2 Avenger SC)
1 Wave Serpent (Spirit Stones; TL Bright Lances)

9 Dire Avengers @ 297 pts
1 Dire Avenger Exarch ( Bladestorm ; 2 Avenger SC)
1 Wave Serpent (Spirit Stones; TL Bright Lances)

6 Guardian Jetbike Squadron @ 152 pts (Shuriken Cannon x2)

6 Fire Dragons @ 216 pts
1 Wave Serpent (TL Missile Launchers)

6 Fire Dragons @ 216 pts
1 Wave Serpent (TL Missile Launchers)

1 Fire Prism @ 125 pts (Shuriken Cannon)

1 Fire Prism @ 115 pts


And yes i know both mechdar lists are very similar but i couldnt think of any real variation on it suggestions for this would be nice.

Seercouncil List

1 Farseer @ 178 pts ( Doom ; Fortune ; Runes of Warding; Spirit Stones; Eldar Jetbike; Singing Spear)

1 Warlock Unit @ 275 pts
1 Warlock ( Embolden ; Eldar Jetbike)
1 Warlock ( Enhance ; Eldar Jetbike)
1 Warlock ( Destructor ; Eldar Jetbike)
1 Warlock ( Destructor ; Eldar Jetbike)
1 Warlock ( Destructor ; Eldar Jetbike)

6 Fire Dragons @ 96 pts

9 Dire Avengers @ 297 pts
1 Dire Avenger Exarch ( Bladestorm ; 2 Avenger SC)
1 Wave Serpent (Spirit Stones; TL Bright Lances)

9 Dire Avengers @ 297 pts
1 Dire Avenger Exarch ( Bladestorm ; 2 Avenger SC)
1 Wave Serpent (Spirit Stones; TL Bright Lances)

10 Storm Guardians @ 212 pts (Fusion Gun x2)
1 Wave Serpent (TL Missile Launchers)

1 Falcon @ 145 pts (Bright Lance)

1 Fire Prism @ 125 pts (Shuriken Cannon)

1 Fire Prism @ 125 pts (Shuriken Cannon)

I havent ever run a jetseer council before so i dont know if i have enough locks in the unit.


Again any and all suggestions would be welcomed and i may post more lists in here in the future.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
86 Posts
well one thing is you dont want to put eml on fire dragon serpents because the point of that serpent is to always be moving as much as possible to deliver its tank hunting cargo, so you wouldnt get to much use out of them, however i would put ss on them so they can always deliver the fd and you can get rid of scary tanks earlier on. The chin cannon on the bl serpent in the first list will probably always feel wasted because your are probably moving too fast to make use of it and the do have a pretty short range compared to the bl and the things you are shooting at with the bl will probably have a high av so the cannon wont even be able to hurt them. And also in the second list with a range 60 weapons your chin cannons often wont be in range and if they are thats a god sign you should probably be backing your tank up because you dont want to get it destroyed because you stayed to close or didnt move enough because you wanted 3 bs3 sp5 shots which on average dont kill one marine and alsmot kill one guard in cover.

For the last list the thing i might change is put the fd in a serpent instead of a falcon because a falcon is meant to stay back and fire all of its cool guns so if it moves the full 24 to deliver the fds you dont get those 3s8 shots you would normally be getting. If you want to keep the falcon and the fds i would suggest lightening up one of the dire avenger units and changine it to a davu putting it in the falcon which would make it a great unit to sit on home objectives and putting the fds in their serpent and changing that serpents weapons to cannons. That'd give you some more points to play around with too which is always nice.

overall they are all very good lists and im sure you will destroy people with them good luck!!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,275 Posts
i think i would go with the first list, though i would give the Serpents with the Fire Dragons have TS Chin Cannons + a hull mounted one. with points saved you could increase the number of each unit to 7 for a better survival rate.

i like Fire Dragons for what they can do. i don't like them for how easy a small unit dies. yeah, they're cheap, but they're so frail.

you could drop Holofields for more bikes, though i've played a few games recently with Fire Prisms with no Holofields with fair to mediocre results. Holofields are seen as a fail of late due to them supposedly increasing the chances of your tank being blown up, but i haven't tried this enough to positively say they suck.

good hunting.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
80 Posts
Discussion Starter · #4 · (Edited)
Revised mechdar1 list

1 Eldrad Ulthran @ 210 pts

7 Fire Dragons @ 222 pts
1 Wave Serpent (Spirit Stones; TL Shuriken Cannons)

7 Fire Dragons @ 212 pts
1 Wave Serpent (TL Shuriken Cannons)

9 Dire Avengers @ 297 pts
1 Dire Avenger Exarch ( Bladestorm ; 2 Avenger SC)
1 Wave Serpent (Spirit Stones; TL Bright Lances)

9 Dire Avengers @ 297 pts
1 Dire Avenger Exarch ( Bladestorm ; 2 Avenger SC)
1 Wave Serpent (Spirit Stones; TL Bright Lances)

9 Guardian Jetbike Squadron @ 281 pts (Shuriken Cannon x3)
1 Warlock ( Embolden ; Singing Spear)

1 Fire Prism @ 115 pts

1 Fire Prism @ 115 pts


Revised seercouncil list

1 Farseer @ 178 pts ( Doom ; Fortune ; Runes of Warding; Spirit Stones; Eldar Jetbike; Singing Spear)
1 Warlock Unit @ 336 pts
1 Warlock ( Embolden ; Eldar Jetbike; Singing Spear)
1 Warlock ( Enhance ; Eldar Jetbike; Singing Spear)
1 Warlock ( Destructor ; Eldar Jetbike)
1 Warlock ( Destructor ; Eldar Jetbike)
1 Warlock ( Destructor ; Eldar Jetbike)
1 Warlock ( Destructor ; Eldar Jetbike)

6 Fire Dragons @ 196 pts
1 Wave Serpent (TL Shuriken Cannons)

9 Dire Avengers @ 297 pts
1 Dire Avenger Exarch ( Bladestorm ; 2 Avenger SC)
1 Wave Serpent (Spirit Stones; TL Bright Lances)

9 Dire Avengers @ 297 pts
1 Dire Avenger Exarch ( Bladestorm ; 2 Avenger SC)
1 Wave Serpent (Spirit Stones; TL Bright Lances)

5 Dire Avengers @ 60 pts

1 Falcon @ 155 pts (Spirit Stones; Bright Lance)

1 Fire Prism @ 115 pts

1 Fire Prism @ 115 pts
 
1 - 4 of 4 Posts
Top