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So here's a Side-Project I've been working on for the last couple of weeks, I have posted it in my Random Miniature Plog however am posting it here to gain a little more attention as I'd like a decent amount of C&C on it to improve further.

It's a commission piece for a local customer. It's my first commission work in a long while so hopefully he likes it.

Seeing as I haven't done much Gstuff work before other than filling in things and adding extra parts to a set of Balrog wings, I'm pretty pleased with how this turned out. I'm even contemplating making one for myself.

Svartmetalls' Nurgle Army was the inspiration for most of the conversion work.

Nurgle Lord:






C&C always welcome.

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Why thank you Vali :)

I'm glad you think so, I wasn't too sure about it myself but if you think it looks how Nurgle should, I feel much better about it :)
 

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Personally, I feel the green maybe too... Dark? My interpretation of nurgle is lots of rot, which for me, is lighter than that. But that is just me, and you wanted good crit.

I really like it, don't get me wrong, I think its just the green that lets it down.

I love the GS work though, and I love how the gold looks tarnished, and well weathered.

Overall, I love the model, just the green ;D

All in IMO
 

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Good stuff mate, makes the skin crawl, which is what your after with Nurgle. Have some rep.
 

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Thanks guys, for the rep and the comments :)

I know what you mean MC, I prefer Nurgle stuff in lighter colours for the 'rot' look too. I painted it in the darker greens like that as it's to fit in with the rest of the customers army. I didn't want to risk painting it lighter in case I needed to repaint it to fit with the rest of his army afterwards anyway :p
 

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OK, I really like the overall concept for this guy - he's huge and lumbering, which is what Nurgle should be, and he'll certainly make an imposing HQ for an army. I like the 'Tree-Man Terminator' idea enough that I might be tempted to try a similar one myself at some point just for the hell of it :)

Now, constructive criticism time.

The GS texturing is a bit too much of the same texture all over, which is a very easy thing to fall into (done it myself on many occasions). The 'tree' sticking out of his back works well, but the Nurgly bits over the rest of him are a bit too same-y; that said, I know it's your first real GS conversion work, so it's very good for that. I'd suggest varying the texturing a little more so there's a clearer suggestion of limbs etc. I'd also be tempted to go all the way and have segments of actual bark texture on his limbs in places, just to really nail the look; that would help delineate between the Terminator armour and the mutated bits on the figure as a whole.

It looks as though you've used the Nurgle Champion shoulderpad from the CSM Command sprue on the left shoulder; it's a nice 'pad but it's just not big enough for a Terminator. I would always advise Nurgling up a Terminator shoulderpad rather than trying to make a power-armour 'pad fit over Tactical Dreadnought armour; it's easier to Nurgle up a Terminator shoulderpad than it is to try and rebuild and reshape a whole shoulder area to make a smaller 'pad fit. I'm contemplating doing a comprehensive tutorial on all the different ways to Nurglify power armour at some point, and something like that is definitely one of the things I'd cover.

The left hand is a bit too much of a blob IMHO, even given the bark-like look you're going for on a lot of the body I think you should give more of an impression of a hand there to balance the overall look of the figure properly. As for the right hand, I have to say I'm not convinced by the sword, it's a bit 'Generic Chaos Weapon' if you know what I mean; for the neo-medieval look you have going on (which is always a great look for Nurgle, BTW - wait till you see the Plague Defiler I have planned) you could maybe try one of the big jagged cleavers from the Ogre sprue.

Being super-picky, the globs of slime dripping off the Nurgle emblem aren't hanging down vertically as they should; either bend them to a perpendicular position or cut them off and replace them with GS'd slime and goo. It's a tiny detail, but it's surprising what a difference having hanging things like that at the correct angle can make to the look of a model; it seems to give a much better impression of weight and mass to the figure somehow.

I don't really feel I can give much feedback on painting, since my own painting is pretty mediocre, but I would suggest a brighter final highlight stage on the green fleshy bits and certainly more contrast on the armour. Currently the armour looks rather monotonous, and it could use some trim and colour variation.

Ehh; this much criticism probably sounds too negative, but I do like the look of him and it's all meant constructively. Have some rep for your first proper GS conversion - which looks good despite all my nitpicking - and get cracking on the next one :biggrin:


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Thanks Svartmetall, that's possibly the most useful post anyone has ever replied to me with.

I'll definitely take all of this into account for my future Gstuff works.

I also really like your idea of using a Cleaver from the Ogre sprues instead of my current weapon. I might just have to steal one from somewhere :p.

As for the other fist, I know exactly what you mean. Do you think a Nurglified Posessed Sprue hand would look better there? Or a generic bolt pistol hand with some 'gunge' puttied onto it?

Like I said, thanks very much for the in depth response. I'd rep you but I've already repped you too recently to do so again :p.
 

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Do you think a Nurglified Posessed Sprue hand would look better there? Or a generic bolt pistol hand with some 'gunge' puttied onto it?
A bolt pistol would be a bit meh on a hulking brute like this; I'm actually wondering whether, given the size he is, you could get away with one of the big taloned left hands off the Spawn sprue. If you haven't got a Spawn sprue to hand (and if not, GET SOME! They're a goldmine for bits :)) you could certainly try some of the Possessed hands, though if you really wanted to give him a bolter I'd say go for the bulky twin-linked one off the Chaos vehicle sprue - it works very well on Nurgle models because it's so big and blocky-looking.
 

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I should have some Spawn sprues in one of my bitz boxes, I'll see how it looks but will have to ask the guy who asked me to do this what he thinks first before changing it around again :p

But thanks anyway!

Next time I do something like this I'll probably be doing it for myself so I will have the time and the bitz to keep changing it around untill it looks right.
 

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What Svartmetall said, doubt there's any need to re-invent the wheel here - I haven't started major GS work myself yet - just dabbled on my minis, but, for a first effort I like the way you're going...

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I really like this model! Great conversions with some nice painting as well. I'm a terrible sculptor/converter so I'm not going to try to give any advice there, but for painting I think the rust/metal parts of the model are too flat, there are a couple easy ways to fix this. You could make the metal looked chipped by adding some jagged highlights of some silver colour to the edges, or you could try some adding some verdigris (that turquois/blue/green stuff that forms in the crevasses of metal, looking up some pictures always helps) to the lower areas, I think this would work very well, tying the metal in with the green a little bit more.

I hope this helps, and have some rep!
 

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Thank you very much Salio, how would you advise painting the Verdigris? I've seen it a lot but have never attempted it myself.
 

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The best way I've found to do verdigris myself is to apply a wash of very watered-down Scaly Green (or the nearest Vallejo equivalent) to the metal; it collects in the contours of the armour very nicely.
 

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Sorry I replied to say thanks Svart but the post wouldn't show.... So thanks for that it's very helpful. Hopefully I can try that out now :)
 

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The best way I've found to do verdigris myself is to apply a wash of very watered-down Scaly Green (or the nearest Vallejo equivalent) to the metal; it collects in the contours of the armour very nicely.
Thanks again for this, just tried it out and I think it seems to work great.

Need to wait for it to dry to see if it's still ok but will get pictures once it's done. Will probably have to wait till tomorrow to upload the pics though.

Time to dig out spawn and posessed sprues :p
 
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