Night Haunter is alive

Firstly konrad did want to die, and he did as his personality ceased to be, night haunter consumed konrad.

Secondly, the question of how sahaal became the assasin? With the use of a poly potion as well as holograms.

The eldar were a non planned factor, they happened as they did and their interference had no effect on haunters plan which was to abandon his legion and gain freedom.

Both sahaal and soul hunter were working for night haunter, however neither knew the other was working for haunter as well. Haunter instructed sahaal to fake the assassination and take the corona with promise of the legion going to him. Soul hunter was purposefully positioned to chase after the "assassin" which haunter planned on, so that the reign of the legion would be uncertain. The assassin that soul hunter caught and executed was an individual that sahaal recruited for the sole purpose of dying so sahaal's role as the assassin wouldn't be found out.

Thus haunter went free, sahaal gained control of the legion, and was a win for all in the eyes of haunter.

Night haunter wasn't ashamed of his legion...night haunter despised the emperor. Konrad was ashamed of his legion, for in time he saw that the initial approval and sanctioning of his methods that the emperor had given him...were taken away in trade for appeasing the public opinion at large.

To konrad the legion symbolized and represented all that he sacrificed and became in order to fulfill what his father needed from a son whom he loved with no bounds....to be the darknes and hate of the empire to act as a focal point to bring focus and discipline to a realm of chaos which without brutality and cruelty would be unable to do so.

As konrads faith, and love in the emperor which is what sustained him through his sacrifice of his humanity for his father, faded so to do konrad as a persona and night haunter which started as a fragment of personality initially used as a defense mechanism while he commited acts of cruelty and inhuman hatred. The fragment known as night haunter grew, it protected konrad and became his only friend, and as konrad lost the will to live it stepped in to preserve konrad's life, even if it meant consuming him.

Haunter was the representation and epitome of konrad's survival instinct, Haunter knew that to keep konrad alive it had to seperate him from that which was most threatening to him, the primary source of stress, the legion and his father.

Thus haunter formulated a intricate plan and put it into motion, to fake his death, and take over as the primary persona. Sahaal and soul hunter were but tools in his plan, ones which carried out their roles flawlessly.

Haunter cared about konrad, as his survival was indrectly tied to hisown, haunter could care less for the legion.

All of the novels involving konrad I have dabbled in, however my interpretation of them is different from your own.

Where as you see sahaal witnessing the event of konrad being beheaded, I interpreted as a purposeful lie spread by sahaal, that sahaal saw what konrad wanted him to see.

Nothing I have said in any way contradicts the material, and depending on how long you have followed warhammer 40k, and I do not convey the notion of simply downloading the dex's, then you would know that in warhammer absolutely nothing is ever truly confirmed or denied. And often statements made by characters, or the narrarator GW/BL often retcons them by saying the character which said them was lying, or purposefully spreading misinformation.

I have explained quite clearly how konrad faked his death, if you disagree that is your opinion.

Which is why I question how long you have followed warhammer 40k from when it first debuted. Because your opinions reflect those of an individual who has not been around long enough to see and know that "outlandish" theories like these often turn out to be true in one way or another. GW/BL never set anything in stone, it is their golden rule to marketing.

The Boz said:

I'm sorry, prophetic pariah powers!?

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Yes, I do believe the emperor genetically engineered one of his sons to have power derived from the pariah gene, and in this case it was Night Haunter. Thus why others felt so uncomfortable around him, why he had an aura of unease and drew such hatred towards him, just as pariahs do.

He also had the ability to draw far deeper upon the power of the pariah gene, the void, then any other could due to this primarch heritage. He was a pariah-hybrid, a pariah derived from the gene splicing of the emperor and his genetic experimentation.

I do believe this is why Konrad was so emotionally conflicted, dead as it were, as well as why he drew such hate from others and caused unease to all those around him.

He also had the ability to channel the void for destructive means, such as when he caused every light fixture of the entire housing complex he was being held in to simultaneously explode. As well as being able to meld with shadows and warp through them to wherever he so wished, when he fought the honor guard of Dorn.

It is my belief that Konrad's "insanity" was influenced by the outsider, just as the Void dragon is able to whisper across reality to those close to it, so too can the outsider from its celestial prison. And Konrad was its target, its chosen, thus why konrad faked his death, to be consumed by the outsider's influence, also known as the Night Haunter.

As the Night haunter, now free from his legion and the emperor, he was able to follow the calling within his corporeal being, the whispers of the outsider and be further drawn to that ever infinite madness. I do believe the outsider plans to use Konrad to release it from its prison, or to use konrad as avatar of its will and essence.

darkreever said:

There is just one real problem I see with this pariah thing; Kurze, like all the primarchs, was a psyker to some degree. You can't be both a psyker and a pariah, pariah's are the anti psyker.


Please, for some (or even all) of these theories and facts of yours can you provide any references for the rest of us to look into so that we can maybe see them for ourselves?

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I dont have the page references on me....but pariahs exude an aura which causes those around them to feel unease, the stronger the pariah, the stronger this effect is. Ranging from unease, to causing hatred, madness to those around them, not just psykers, non psykers as well.

It is stated in numerous novels, that Konrad caused the other primarchs around him, to feel uneasy around him, as well as to cause feelings of hate towards him, such as Dorn quickly attacking him when usually dorn is level headed in that context.

It is generally held going according to Magnus statement that the other primarchs were hypocrites because their psyker flame which he saw was just as bright as his. However, it never states he said this about every single primarch, in particular Kurze. It could be that Kurze truly was a Pariah, and it is known that the emperor knew of the pariah gene and likely was unable to genetically cause it to produce when he wanted, ala the sisters of silence.

His sons, the primarchs each represented a piece of himself, as well as a piece of his desire, magnus the psyker gifted, horus the will charismatic ideals of the emperor, and so forth. It is not that far stretched to see that Konrad was a pariah of a level not yet seen of any other, a pariah could truly tap the void to any extent he desired with enough control, or not tap it at all.