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Hi all, after playing vanilla marines for 5+ years, I felt it was time for a switch. I haven't bought any models yet, but this is a list i was looking to make. Is it worth investing in, or should I change some parts? C&C appreciated.

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Farseer
Doom
Fortune
Spirit Stones
Runes of warding
Runes of Witnessing
-155
8x Warlocks
2x Singing Spears
6x Destructor
Enhance
Embolden
-286
Wave Serpent
Twin-linked Scatter Lasers
Spirit Stones
-125

ELITES

5x Fire Dragons
-80
Wave Serpent
Twin-linked Scatter Lasers
Spirit Stones
-125

TROOPS

10X Dire Avengers
Exarch
2 Catapults
Bladestorm
-152
Wave Serpent
Twin-Linked Brightlance
Spirit stones
Star Engines
-160

5x Dire Avengers
-60
Wave Serpent
Twin-Linked Brightlance
Spirit stones
-145

5x Dire Avengers
-60

HEAVY SUPPORT

Fire Prism
Holo-Fields
Spirit Stones
-160

Fire Prism
Holo-Fields
Spirit Stones
-160

Falcon
Eldar Missile Launcher
Holo-Fields
Spirit Stones
-180
 

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Foot seer council not that great I mean it is larger than jet council however if wave serpent goes down before they get in range to do anything they become wasted points.

So mabye drop a couple destructor warlocks and the wave serpent and get the farseer and warlocks on bikes.
Also with an embolden warlock in your ret you dont need to have runes of witnessing on the farseer as you can reroll the leadership.


Other than that not much i can besides my trepidations about 2 troops at only 5 guys making them very vulnerable and if i were playing u they would be my main targets.
 

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Farseer
Doom
Fortune
Spirit Stones
Runes of warding
Runes of Witnessing
-155
8x Warlocks
2x Singing Spears
6x Destructor
Enhance
Embolden
-286 I would say drop your locks down to about 5. Drop the spears it costs you in cc.

Wave Serpent
Twin-linked Scatter Lasers
Spirit Stones
-125

ELITES

5x Fire Dragons
-80
Wave Serpent
Twin-linked Scatter Lasers
Spirit Stones
-125

TROOPS

10X Dire Avengers
Exarch
2 Catapults
Bladestorm
-152
Wave Serpent
Twin-Linked Brightlance
Spirit stones
Star Engines
-160drop the star engines.

5x Dire Avengers
-60 pump up to 10
Wave Serpent
Twin-Linked Brightlance
Spirit stones
-145

5x Dire Avengers
-60 DAUV

HEAVY SUPPORT

Fire Prism
Holo-Fields
Spirit Stones
-160

Fire Prism
Holo-Fields
Spirit Stones
-160

Falcon
Eldar Missile Launcher
Holo-Fields
Spirit Stones
-180
 

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That is actually a pretty good start. Do be careful and make sure those Warlocks will safely get close to their intended target as soon as you can.

I would like to see a couple more Fire Dragons in that squad as 5 just isn't quite reliable enough.

I agree that Star Engines don't have much use on the Dire Avenger Wave Serpent. They would be a tad more useful on the Warlock Serpent if you decide to take them at all.
 

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youd be better off w a squad of howling banshees w the farseer supporting them w doom, w the leftover points you can beef up the smaller da squads...i dont see the foot council being quite worth it, i was never a fan unless they were bike council anyway, once again preference, still at this point level since youre not running jetbike council of doom, drop them and increase the survivability of your scoring units, and add in banshees--those ladies supported by doom are an efficient killing machine
 

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Nice list quite similiar to my 1500 list. One word of advice pump the fire dragons up to at least six otherwise they have trouble surviving.
 

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Thanks guys. Taking in that advice, I've come up with this list.

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Farseer
Doom
Fortune
Spirit Stones
Runes of warding
-145

ELITES

Fire Dragons
6x Dragons
-96
Wave Serpent
Twin-linked Scatter Lasers
Spirit Stones
-125

Howling Banshees
10x Banshees
Exarch
Executioner
Acrobatic
-187
Wave Serpent
Twin-linked Scatter Lasers
Spirit Stones
Star Engines
-140

TROOPS

Dire Avengers
10x Avengers
Exarch
2 Catapults
Bladestorm
-152
Wave Serpent
Twin-Linked Brightlance
Spirit stones
-145

Dire Avengers
10x Avengers
Exarch
2 Catapults
Bladestorm
-152
Wave Serpent
Twin-Linked Brightlance
Spirit stones
-145

Dire Avengers (Chill in Falcon)
5x Avengers
-60

HEAVY SUPPORT

Fire Prism
Holo-Fields
Spirit Stones
-160

Fire Prism
Holo-Fields
Spirit Stones
-160

Falcon
Eldar Missile Launcher
Holo-Fields
Spirit Stones
-180
 

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I've also worked up this alternative list.

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Farseer
Doom
Fortune
Spirit Stones
Runes of warding
-145

Autarch
Power Weapon
Mandiblasters
Fusion gun
-100

ELITES

Fire Dragons
5x Dragons
-80
Wave Serpent
Twin-linked Scatter Lasers
Spirit Stones
-125

Howling Banshees
10x Banshees
Exarch
Executioner
Acrobatic
-187
Wave Serpent
Twin-linked Scatter Lasers
Spirit Stones
-125

TROOPS

Dire Avengers
10x Avengers
Exarch
2 Catapults
Bladestorm
-152
Wave Serpent
Twin-Linked Brightlance
Spirit stones
-145

Dire Avengers
10x Avengers
Exarch
2 Catapults
Bladestorm
-152
Wave Serpent
Twin-Linked Brightlance
Spirit stones
-145

Dire Avengers (Chill in Falcon)
5x Avengers
-60

HEAVY SUPPORT

Fire Prism
Spirit Stones
-125

Fire Prism
Spirit Stones
-125

Falcon
Eldar Missile Launcher
Holo-Fields
Spirit Stones
-180
 
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